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What is an octothorpe?

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True or False

Lion attacks are the most common animal attack in Africa.

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Really? I'd assume it'd be mosquitos or something.

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Animal...not insect, unless you really want to get technical. :?


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Insects are animals, but let's not get too pedantic.
My random (fairly) useless fact:
A quarter of the 2^25 Lights Out configurations on a 5 * 5 grid are solvable, and those which are solvable each have four solutions.


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The capital of Brunei is Bandar Seri Begawan.

Mosquitoes always stay on your skin at least a minute before biting you.

SO2 + H20 = H2SO4

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Where did that extra oxygen atom come from?

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That's what I learned in school. I don't know. It's the chemical equation for acid rain.

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SO3 + H2O -> H2SO4

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If n is a factor of 4294967295 (2 ^ 32 - 1), it is possible to construct a regular n-gon using only a ruler and a compass. No other odd numbers are known for which this is possible.

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The_Red_Hawk wrote:
SO2 + H20 = H2SO4
Which was corrected...

masonjason wrote:
SO3 + H2O -> H2SO4

However, there is an intermediate step you forgot.

2SO2 + O2 <-> 2SO3

It's an important reaction in the formation of acid rain and in the Contact Process to form sulphuric acid industrially.

In the Contact Process, sulphur trioxide is dissolved in concentrated sulphuric acid to form oleum.

SO3 + H2SO4 -> H2S2O7

Oleum is then dissolved in water to make more sulphuric acid.

H2S2O7 + H2O -> 2H2SO4

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agaricus5 wrote:
The_Red_Hawk wrote:
SO2 + H20 = H2SO4
Which was corrected...

masonjason wrote:
SO3 + H2O -> H2SO4

However, there is an intermediate step you forgot.

2SO2 + O2 <-> 2SO3


So, strictly speaking, isn't it really (from a point of view of what it takes to make acid rain):

2SO2 + O2 + 2H20 = 2H2SO4?

Just curious, I'm about as ignorant about chemistry as it gets...

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Watcher wrote:
If n is a divisor of 4294967295 (2 ^ 32 - 1), it is possible to construct a regular n-gon using only a ruler and a compass. No other odd numbers are known for which this is possible.

What about 3? (or 5 or 15 or 17)
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Mikko wrote:
What about 3? (or 5 or 15 or 17)

My bad. The correct term is "factor". In Danish, the term is "divisor", so I just used that one without thinking about it.

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I think the point is that if n is a factor of 15, it is possible to construct a regular n-gon using only a ruler and a compass.

I'm pretty sure 15 is an odd number...

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I think the point is that if n is a factor of 15, it is possible to construct a regular n-gon using only a ruler and a compass.

I'm pretty sure 15 is an odd number...

Bloody ambiguous sentences. I meant that the factors of 2 ^ 32 - 1 are precisely those odd numbers for which it is possible to construct a regular n-gon with ruler and compass. The second sentence referred to the property of an n-gon being constructible. I thought the repeat of "possible" made that clear, but I guess not.

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If 2^p - 1 is prime, then the factors of n = (2^p - 1) * 2^(p-1) will add to 2n. This is called a Perfect Number.

i.e. p=5
2^5 - 1 = 31
2^(5-1)=16
31*16=496
factors are 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 31, 62, 124, 248, 496
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Now you've opened a can of worms, Hawk.

eytanz wrote:

So, strictly speaking, isn't it really (from a point of view of what it takes to make acid rain):

2SO2 + O2 + 2H2O = 2H2SO4?

Just curious, I'm about as ignorant about chemistry as it gets...

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Well, yes. But also

SO2 + H2O = H2SO3.

Both H2SO3 and H2SO4 are strong acids. In the air, SO2 and SO3 exist alongside each other.

(Perhaps) useless facts about acid rain: All rain is acidic due to dissolved carbon dioxide, as
CO2 + H2O = H2CO3,
carbonic acid. Therefore, acid rain is defined to be limited to rain with a pH less than 5.6. Acid rain mobilises heavy metals which would otherwise not dissolve in water. Nitrogen compounds, the infamous NOx family, are also a cause of acid rain.
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leroy00 wrote:
Now you've opened a can of worms, Hawk.

eytanz wrote:

So, strictly speaking, isn't it really (from a point of view of what it takes to make acid rain):

2SO2 + O2 + 2H2O = 2H2SO4?

Just curious, I'm about as ignorant about chemistry as it gets...

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Well, yes. But also

SO2 + H2O = H2SO3.

Both H2SO3 and H2SO4 are strong acids. In the air, SO2 and SO3 exist alongside each other.

Cool. I didn't know about that. What do you call 2O = H2SO3 then?

(Perhaps) useless facts about acid rain: All rain is acidic due to dissolved carbon dioxide, as
CO2 + H2O = H2CO3,
carbonic acid. Therefore, acid rain is defined to be limited to rain with a pH less than 5.6. Acid rain mobilises heavy metals which would otherwise not dissolve in water.
It also dissolves limestone in a way that allows it to cause water hardness and be deposited somewhere else if heated. Normally, acids added to carbonates form salts, water and carbon dioxide:

2HCl + CaCO3 -> H2O + CO2 + CaCl2.

However, carbonic acid, itself containing a CO3 2- ion, instead reacts with the carbonate to form hydrogencarbonate:

H2CO3 + CaCO3 -> Ca(HCO3)2.

Hydrogencarbonate can then be decomposed by heating to leave carbonate on surfaces, which is what we call "limescale":

Ca(HCO3)2 -> H2O + CO2 + CaCO3

Nitrogen compounds, the infamous NOx family, are also a cause of acid rain.
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Huh? I thought nitrogen has a valency of 3 or 5, not 4, so the NO3 ion has a 1- charge (You can also get NO2 ions with 1- charges as well, due to the difference in oxidation state).

I'm sure nitric acid has a formula of HNO3, not H2NO3



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Some random, useless facts about words:

"TYPEWRITER" can be typed using only the top row of letters on a standard keyboard.

"STEWARDESSES" can be typed using only the left hand

Longest word in the english language:
PNEUMONO­ULTRA­MICRO­SCOPIC­SILICO­VOLCANO­CONIOSIS (45 letters)
= a lung disease caused by breathing in particles of siliceous volcanic dust.

If chemical terms are allowed, this is the longest word:
ACETYL­SERYL­TYROSYL­SERYL­ISO­LEUCYL­THREONYL­SERYL­PROLYL­SERYL­GLUTAMINYL­PHENYL­ALANYL­VALYL­PHENYL­ALANYL­LEUCYL­SERYL­SERYL­VALYL­TRYPTOPHYL­ALANYL­ASPARTYL­PROLYL­ISOLEUCYL­GLUTAMYL­LEUCYL­LEUCYL­ASPARAGINYL­VALYL­CYSTEINYL­THREONYL­SERYL­SERYL­LEUCYL­GLYCYL­ASPARAGINYL­GLUTAMINYL­PHENYL­ALANYL­GLUTAMINYL­THREONYL­GLUTAMINYL­GLUTAMINYL­ALANYL­ARGINYL­THREONYL­THREONYL­GLUTAMINYL­VALYL­GLUTAMINYL­GLUTAMINYL­PHENYL­ALANYL­SERYL­GLUTAMINYL­VALYL­TRYPTOPHYL­LYSYL­PROLYL­PHENYL­ALANYL­PROLYL­GLUTAMINYL­SERYL­THREONYL­VALYL­ARGINYL­PHENYL­ALANYL­PROLYL­GLYCYL­ASPARTYL­VALYL­TYROSYL­LYSYL­VALYL­TYROSYL­ARGINYL­TYROSYL­ASPARAGINYL­ALANYL­VALYL­LEUCYL­ASPARTYL­PROLYL­LEUCYL­ISOLEUCYL­THREONYL­ALANYL­LEUCYL­LEUCYL­GLYCYL­THREONYL­PHENYL­ALANYL­ASPARTYL­THREONYL­ARGINYL­ASPARAGINYL­ARGINYL­ISOLEUCYL­ISOLEUCYL­GLUTAMYL­VALYL­GLUTAMYL­ASPARAGINYL­GLUTAMINYL­GLUTAMINYL­SERYL­PROLYL­THREONYL­THREONYL­ALANYL­GLUTAMYL­THREONYL­LEUCYL­ASPARTYL­ALANYL­THREONYL­ARGINYL­ARGINYL­VALYL­ASPARTYL­ASPARTYL­ALANYL­THREONYL­VALYL­ALANYL­ISOLEUCYL­ARGINYL­SERYL­ALANYL­ASPARAGINYL­ISOLEUCYL­ASPARAGINYL­LEUCYL­VALYL­ASPARAGINYL­GLUTAMYL­LEUCYL­VALYL­ARGINYL­GLYCYL­THREONYL­GLYCYL­LEUCYL­TYROSYL­ASPARAGINYL­GLUTAMINYL­ASPARAGINYL­THREONYL­PHENYL­ALANYL­GLUTAMYL­SERYL­METHIONYL­SERYL­GLYCYL­LEUCYL­VALYL­TRYPTOPHYL­THREONYL­SERYL­ALANYL­PROLYL­ALANYL­SERINE (1185 letters)
= Tobacco Mosaic Virus, Dahlemense Strain.
This word has appeared in the American Chemical Society's Chemical Abstracts and is thus considered by some to be the longest real word.

Although some say SMILES is the longest word because there is a MILE between the first and last letters...

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Nillo wrote:
If chemical terms are allowed, this is the longest word:
ACETYL­SERYL­TYROSYL­SERYL­ISO­LEUCYL­THREONYL­SERYL­PROLYL­SERYL­GLUTAMINYL­PHENYL­ALANYL­VALYL­PHENYL­ALANYL­LEUCYL­SERYL­SERYL­VALYL­TRYPTOPHYL­ALANYL­ASPARTYL­PROLYL­ISOLEUCYL­GLUTAMYL­LEUCYL­LEUCYL­ASPARAGINYL­VALYL­CYSTEINYL­THREONYL­SERYL­SERYL­LEUCYL­GLYCYL­ASPARAGINYL­GLUTAMINYL­PHENYL­ALANYL­GLUTAMINYL­THREONYL­GLUTAMINYL­GLUTAMINYL­ALANYL­ARGINYL­THREONYL­THREONYL­GLUTAMINYL­VALYL­GLUTAMINYL­GLUTAMINYL­PHENYL­ALANYL­SERYL­GLUTAMINYL­VALYL­TRYPTOPHYL­LYSYL­PROLYL­PHENYL­ALANYL­PROLYL­GLUTAMINYL­SERYL­THREONYL­VALYL­ARGINYL­PHENYL­ALANYL­PROLYL­GLYCYL­ASPARTYL­VALYL­TYROSYL­LYSYL­VALYL­TYROSYL­ARGINYL­TYROSYL­ASPARAGINYL­ALANYL­VALYL­LEUCYL­ASPARTYL­PROLYL­LEUCYL­ISOLEUCYL­THREONYL­ALANYL­LEUCYL­LEUCYL­GLYCYL­THREONYL­PHENYL­ALANYL­ASPARTYL­THREONYL­ARGINYL­ASPARAGINYL­ARGINYL­ISOLEUCYL­ISOLEUCYL­GLUTAMYL­VALYL­GLUTAMYL­ASPARAGINYL­GLUTAMINYL­GLUTAMINYL­SERYL­PROLYL­THREONYL­THREONYL­ALANYL­GLUTAMYL­THREONYL­LEUCYL­ASPARTYL­ALANYL­THREONYL­ARGINYL­ARGINYL­VALYL­ASPARTYL­ASPARTYL­ALANYL­THREONYL­VALYL­ALANYL­ISOLEUCYL­ARGINYL­SERYL­ALANYL­ASPARAGINYL­ISOLEUCYL­ASPARAGINYL­LEUCYL­VALYL­ASPARAGINYL­GLUTAMYL­LEUCYL­VALYL­ARGINYL­GLYCYL­THREONYL­GLYCYL­LEUCYL­TYROSYL­ASPARAGINYL­GLUTAMINYL­ASPARAGINYL­THREONYL­PHENYL­ALANYL­GLUTAMYL­SERYL­METHIONYL­SERYL­GLYCYL­LEUCYL­VALYL­TRYPTOPHYL­THREONYL­SERYL­ALANYL­PROLYL­ALANYL­SERINE (1185 letters)
= Tobacco Mosaic Virus, Dahlemense Strain.
This word has appeared in the American Chemical Society's Chemical Abstracts and is thus considered by some to be the longest real word.
Actually, I'd think that to be completely wrong. What you have written is actually just the names of the amino acid components of some protein stuck together in a semi-chemical format. Since many proteins can be hundreds to thousands of amino acids long, written in this way, they would contain several thousand letters.

However, I have no idea if this is actually an accepted way of writing the full name of a protein or not, so I guess this is not really true.

Plus, each amino acid has a much longer chemical definition, so if each amino acid was translated into its chemical counterpart, it would be much longer. For example, glycine, the shortest amino acid found in nature, has a structure like this:

    H   H   O
     \\  |  //
      N-C-C
     /  |  \\
    H   H   O-H


CH2NH2COOH (I think)

Its proper name is 2-aminoethanoic acid, which is much longer than its special name.

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"Strengths" is the longest one syllable word in the English language.

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Except, of course, for "Oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh!"

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mrimer wrote:
"Strengths" is the longest one syllable word in the English language.

Also the longest one with only one vowel.

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I think the title of longest word with only one vowel belongs to "psychorhythms", but only if you're not counting the y.

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That last fact was found from this interesting site, which also makes this claim:

"DORD is a non-existent word entered into the second edition of Webster's New International Dictionary by mistake."

If only it had been DROD.

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No piece of square dry paper can be folded more than 7 times.

The only 15 letter word that can be spelled without repeating a letter is "uncopyrightable".

Bat's only turn left when they exit a cave.

Peanut Butter is the main ingredient of dynomight.
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Stuwy wrote:
No piece of square dry paper can be folded more than 7 times.

That's of course if you do it with just your hands. You can fold it more than 7 times if you use a vise or pliers.
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I can fold a piece of paper with my hands 7 times. Just not in half every time.

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Yes... I think he means this:

You cannot fold a square piece of paper in half more than seven times only using your hands.

I've heard this before, but I don't know how true it is.

If a really strong man (or woman) tried to do it, I'm sure he/she could... I dunno.

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