doink~
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Just wondering how many people dislike level 13.

(Personally I dislike it)

Also:
How many rooms are there in L13? Has anyone bothered to get to all those rooms?

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Drizzo
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Level 13 sucks
but level 15 is worse, because you can't skip it, and it takes a lot longer.

I don't know, nor do I care, how many rooms are in level 13, as I haven't gone to that stage in over 2 years.

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agaricus5
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doink~ wrote:
Also:
How many rooms are there in L13? Has anyone bothered to get to all those rooms?

The answer is that there are 24 accessible rooms but 25 in the entire level. 2N 2W is inaccessible except in the editor.

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dividendD
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Drizzo wrote:
Level 13 sucks
but level 15 is worse, because you can't skip it, and it takes a lot longer.

I don't know, nor do I care, how many rooms are in level 13, as I haven't gone to that stage in over 2 years.

Actually, that's incorrect.

Maybe you missed the one that leads the farthest.

Drizzo
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I was quite aware of that, actually, but I meant you couldn't skip it without consequence.

[Edited by Drizzo on 04-17-2004 at 08:39 PM GMT]

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TripleM
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You have to complete level 13 to see the full ending too, don't you? Or has that changed since I completed it?

Drizzo
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Well what happened to me when I beat it without completing level 13

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Scott
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The ending is different if you complete level 13.

masonjason
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I skipped most of level 15, and still managed to see the full ending.

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DiMono
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...most of level 15? To my knowledge, there are ...very few rooms that are unrequired on that level (the lengths I go to for avoiding secret tags...) How many did you skip?

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Drizzo
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Just a guess but I imagine he

I intend to try it this next time through Dugan's.

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masonjason
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Unfortunately, all my KDD restores and demos are messed up so I can't go back and tell you exactly which rooms I beat.

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The_Red_Hawk
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I missed two rooms in 15, found them impossible to defeat after about six hours each, and restored to 12 to go to 16. I still haven't beaten them to date.

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patmo98
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I found level 13 easy when compared to level 23. I HATE goblins! I am biased toward 13 because I completed 13 in one day and it took me months to beat 23.

The_Red_Hawk
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My least favourite level would have to be 15.

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MartianInvader
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If you ask me, the last room of level 8 alone makes it worse than 13. Also, I personally found the level where you had to lure roaches into various areas and trap them (I think it was 16) to be a bit more annoying and frustrating than 13.
My trick for 13 was to get to as many rooms as possible and then plot out my course on the restore screen... found it a lot quicker than wandering around!

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I don't understand why people hate L13 so much. If you've done it once and you know the rough path to take then it doesn't take that long, and there is no way you can mess up and keep having to do it again.

Level 15 isn't that bad either. I'm amazed that you haven't yet beaten it, Hawk, considering...

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