Sillyman
Level: Smiter

Rank Points: 339
Registered: 09-08-2006
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Welcome to Mafia. Roles have been distributed, except for NiroZ, who isn't accepting PMs apparently. If I don't find another way to contact you in your profile, could you arrange a way for me to be able to do that? Thanks. Edit: Role sent via email.

The roles are as follows:
1 Mafia Godfather: Is immune to inspection and decides who dies each night. Can talk privately with his goons. Ze wants to kill enough townspeople to control the vote.
2 Mafia Goons: Inspect as evil and act as backups to the Godfather, with one difference: The goons that inherit the role of Godfather are still inspectable. They can talk privately with each other and the Godfather, and want to kill enough townspeople to control the vote.
1 Sheriff: Decides who is inspected every night, then ze and his Deputy get the results. Ze can talk privately with his Deputy, and wins with the town.
1 Deputy: Gets the results of inspections, and can talk privately with the Sheriff. If the Sheriff dies, ze becomes the Sheriff. Ze wins with the town.
1 Doctor: Can protect one person every night, and wins with the town.
7 Townies: Have no powers except that of voting. They want to eliminate the threat of the mafia so they can go on with their lives.

Anyway... It is night 1! Please send night actions or a confirmation PM if you are a normal townie. The player list:
Chaco (Confirmed)
Monkey (Confirmed)
Stigant (Confirmed)
RoboBob3000 (Confirmed)
NiroZ (Confirmed)
Zed-man (Confirmed)
Lamkin (Confirmed)
Dex Stewart (Confirmed)
kie (Confirmed)
The Stew Boy (Confirmed)
Timo006
Someone Else (Confirmed)
TripleM (Confirmed)

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Who, me?
FNORD

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[Last edited by Sillyman at 11-30-2008 12:07 AM]

Someone Else
Level: Smitemaster

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So, if the deputy dies, nobody gets the result of inspections? I think that needs to be changed/clarified.

Chaco
Level: Smitemaster
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It looks like both the Sheriff and the Deputy:

a) know who each other are
b) get the results of an inspection
c) can talk privately with one another

However, only the Sheriff can decide who to investigate.

(Sillyman, please confirm if I'm right. I've not played this role-variant of Mafia before and I could be wrong.)

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Dex Stewart
Level: Smiter
Rank Points: 355
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Chaco wrote:
It looks like both the Sheriff and the Deputy:

a) know who each other are
b) get the results of an inspection
c) can talk privately with one another

However, only the Sheriff can decide who to investigate.

(Sillyman, please confirm if I'm right. I've not played this role-variant of Mafia before and I could be wrong.)

I'm not Sillyman, but that is definitely what the rules state.

Someone Else
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Oh, you're right. Sorry, I didn't notice that.

Sillyman
Level: Smiter

Rank Points: 339
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Dex Stewart wrote:

Chaco wrote:
It looks like both the Sheriff and the Deputy:

a) know who each other are
b) get the results of an inspection
c) can talk privately with one another

However, only the Sheriff can decide who to investigate.

(Sillyman, please confirm if I'm right. I've not played this role-variant of Mafia before and I could be wrong.)

I'm not Sillyman, but that is definitely what the rules state.

Yes, that is correct. By the way, you guys shouldn't be talking, since it's night.

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RoboBob3000
Level: Smitemaster

Rank Points: 1978
Registered: 10-23-2003
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I disagree with the rule that prohibits talking at night. It seems to me that it only makes the game less interesting.

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Monkey
Level: Master Delver

Rank Points: 190
Registered: 03-21-2006
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I'm restless. *eats pudding *
How about only talking at night if it conveys no useful information whatsoever?

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[Last edited by Monkey at 11-29-2008 02:37 AM]

Someone Else
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I think *Yawn* that that's a good idea.

RoboBob3000
Level: Smitemaster

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But what I'm wondering is how the game is harmed by the sharing of useful information at night time. Wouldn't we want to influence the roles that act at night?

What makes the night period so different than the day period?

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Lamkin
Level: Smitemaster

Rank Points: 606
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RoboBob3000 wrote:
But what I'm wondering is how the game is harmed by the sharing of useful information at night time. Wouldn't we want to influence the roles that act at night?

What makes the night period so different than the day period?

My dearest Robo(Boogie)Bob,
My guess is that it adds to the drama and realism of the game if there's not a constant stream of posting at night when any given townsman (or townswoman) is either snoozing or being, um, disposed of...

Sillyman
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RoboBob3000 wrote:
But what I'm wondering is how the game is harmed by the sharing of useful information at night time. Wouldn't we want to influence the roles that act at night?

What makes the night period so different than the day period?

Exactly that. You don't talk at night, because it affects the game to talk at night. Day is the discussion time, and when you decide who to lynch, and who to convince the cop to inspect, and who to convince the doctor to protect. Night is for private discussion among the cops and the mafia and for the sending of night actions. It's an important part of the game, and part of the strategy.

Plus it adds to the realism and the suspense and the etcetera. Please, be mindful of the etcetera.

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FNORD

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[Last edited by Sillyman at 11-29-2008 08:53 AM]

Sillyman
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I still need PMs from NiroZ, Kie, and Timo006. Deadline is in negative 802 weeks, 5 days

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NiroZ
Level: Smitemaster
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I emailed you.

Sillyman
Level: Smiter

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So that just leaves Timo006.

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TripleM
Level: Smitemaster
Rank Points: 1373
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So, uh, now what?

Dex Stewart
Level: Smiter
Rank Points: 355
Registered: 01-19-2007
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We wait for the game master to announce that night has ended.

TripleM
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Well, yeah, I know that, but the deadline for that was a couple of days ago Was more of a 'bump' to Sillyman.

Monkey
Level: Master Delver

Rank Points: 190
Registered: 03-21-2006
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*wakes up* Time to see who died.
All right, who stole my coffee machine!?

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[Last edited by Monkey at 12-03-2008 09:48 PM]

Sillyman
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TripleM wrote:
Well, yeah, I know that, but the deadline for that was a couple of days ago Was more of a 'bump' to Sillyman.

... it still says 2 days to me... ah well, it doesn't look like he'll be answering anyway. Excuse me while I collect my end of night post information.


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Who, me?
FNORD

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[Last edited by Sillyman at 12-03-2008 09:59 PM]

Sillyman
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Zed-Man had his skull smashed in with a blunt weapon and was found to have multiple large stab wounds in the chest area! (yell at the mafia, not me, they demanded it) Gasp! He was an ordinary townsperson.

Timo006 had a sudden heart attack and died of lurkiness! He was a mafia, and as such one random normal townie is now a mafia to replace him!

A player list:
Chaco
Monkey
Stigant
RoboBob3000
NiroZ
Zed-man (Townsperson, brutally murdered night 1)
Lamkin
Dex Stewart
kie
The Stew Boy
Someone Else
TripleM

It is now day. 11 people alive means 6 votes to lynch.

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Who, me?
FNORD

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[Last edited by Sillyman at 12-03-2008 10:07 PM]

RoboBob3000
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Well, let's get started.

Who is our Sheriff, and who is our Deputy? What did you guys learn?

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zwetschenwasser
Level: Master Delver

Rank Points: 200
Registered: 05-22-2007
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Me? Dead? WHY ME? WHY NOW? I HAD A WIFE, KIDS, AND A SUCCESSFUL ICE-CREAM FACTORY BUSINESS!!! HOW COULD YOU DO SUCH A THING!

Oh, wait, I forgot I was dead.

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Currently working on GaTEB and KDD (never finished the silly thing).

Sillyman
Level: Smiter

Rank Points: 339
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Oh whoops I forgot to mention that dead people get one last post. Well there you go.

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Monkey
Level: Master Delver

Rank Points: 190
Registered: 03-21-2006
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Dunno who Sheriff is, but I know I'm gonna eat a block of cheese now. Cheese is the best antidepressant.
Um, ow at Plum.
So anyway, not enough info to lynch, so I'm just gonna loiter around.

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[Last edited by Monkey at 12-03-2008 11:15 PM : last-minute edits]

Monkey
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Oh yeah, don't want to change around my original post too much.
Anyway, Lamkin doesn't seem like he'd be a mafioso. I have a feeling that's just me though.

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TripleM
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Sillyman wrote:

TripleM wrote:
Well, yeah, I know that, but the deadline for that was a couple of days ago Was more of a 'bump' to Sillyman.

... it still says 2 days to me... ah well, it doesn't look like he'll be answering anyway. Excuse me while I collect my end of night post information.

Oh, whoops. See, I *thought* it was an untiltime then, then I'm sure I refreshed and it didn't change at all, so I thought it wasn't. Oh well. Silly me.

First day is pretty random for voting.. but RoboBob3000 sounds pretty suspicious to me, trying to get the Sheriff + Deputy to reveal themselves far too early..

zwetschenwasser
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A spirit rises from his grave...

Thou mortal beings, I am the being known as Zwetschenwasser. I encourage thee to avenge my death. Only Lamkin would have the cruelty to target me. You must destroy his reign of terror. You MUST !

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RoboBob3000
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So here's my thoughts regarding revealing the Deputy and the Sheriff.

The only players with incentive to lie about being in those roles are the Mafia. If we have two sets of people claiming to be police, then I'm willing to bet that one of those sets is the Mafia. If there's only one set, I bet they're telling the truth.

As long as we keep the Doctor anonymous, we have a good chance of keeping them alive. And if one of the cops does die and Sillyman reveals their role afterward, than that corroborates the other's story.

I think if the townspeople agree to work with this strategy (Doctor, you need to protect the cops!), we can do pretty well.

No lynching me plz.


Edit: If one of the Sheriff/Deputy duo dies, are they still capable of performing inspections?

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[Last edited by RoboBob3000 at 12-04-2008 12:47 AM]

Lamkin
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Monkey wrote:
Anyway, Lamkin doesn't seem like he'd be a mafioso. I have a feeling that's just me though.

I certainly hope this is the consensus, as hassenpfeffer doesn't need a fellow townsman buried alongside of him.


I'll need to hear from several more people before I arrive at any definitive conclusions, and not posting certainly isn't going to help your cause as far as my vote is concerned.