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Feyd-Rautha
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I'm pretty stuck here.


First part is ok.
Second part where you kill the western eyes is ok.
Turn back, do the rest of 1 square wide corridor pit, kill the eastern eyes and... then?
How i kill all the wraithwings?

Seems obviously that I must leave at least two (or three) alive before finshing the south-east trapdoors square, but...

Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Edited by Feyd-Rautha on 03-19-2004 at 08:34 PM GMT]

[Edited by Feyd-Rautha on 03-19-2004 at 08:35 PM GMT]

[Edited by Feyd-Rautha on 03-19-2004 at 08:38 PM GMT: Argh! Noob i Am... (are map-marker working right?)]
03-19-2004 at 08:26 PM
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Your mapmarkers aren't working, but that's ok, I know this board well, and it's not an easy one...
Click here to view the secret text
Good luck.
If that's not enough information then here's a bit I stole from elsewhere in the forum, thanks to Roach King, that gives you exact instructions.

when only 1 wrathwing is left:



Click here to view the secret text




im pretty sure that someone has already said that, but here it is again.

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03-19-2004 at 08:47 PM
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Feyd-Rautha
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Tanks Drizzo!

I've already tried with one wraithwing and i "feel" that is possible in some way.
Still, i throw out my third mouse trough the window on this level... :throw
03-19-2004 at 08:59 PM
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If you're still having trouble, I suspect it's with the same aspect of the room as I was troubled with for the longest time. Remember that there are two directions you can step in to reach the bottom area...

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03-19-2004 at 10:28 PM
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Drizzo wrote:

when only 1 wrathwing is left:



Click here to view the secret text

Great tip! :thumbsup
I really have a bad relationship with these "red carpets"... -_-

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07-19-2006 at 03:04 PM
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Gas75 wrote:
I really have a bad relationship with these "red carpets"... -_-
Actually, they're called trapdoors, but it *is* hard to tell from just looking at the screen... :)

np: Electric President - We Were Never Build To Last (Electric President)

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07-19-2006 at 03:35 PM
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Strangely my DROD version has different colors and backgrounds... -_-

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07-19-2006 at 06:22 PM
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Gas75 wrote:
Strangely my DROD version has different colors and backgrounds... -_-
Well, if it's actually the Architect Edition then it'll look different for sure - the screenshots in the forums are generated using the Journey to Rooted Hold tileset...

Still, King Dugan's Dungeon should play the same in both editions... :)

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07-19-2006 at 08:12 PM
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Ok, I did something dumb in this room. I was trying to kill the last wraithwing and as one of my attempts, i set off all the trapdoors and opened the red gate. as i was seeing how far I could draw him to me, i accidentally went to level 15, thrice west. now when i go back or try to restore the room, it puts me in the leftmost corridor. how do i get back to the start??
02-19-2007 at 02:44 AM
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slopoke wrote:
Ok, I did something dumb in this room. I was trying to kill the last wraithwing and as one of my attempts, i set off all the trapdoors and opened the red gate. as i was seeing how far I could draw him to me, i accidentally went to level 15, thrice west. now when i go back or try to restore the room, it puts me in the leftmost corridor. how do i get back to the start??
Can you restore to a point in one of the other rooms?
02-19-2007 at 02:45 AM
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NiroZ wrote:
slopoke wrote:
Ok, I did something dumb in this room. I was trying to kill the last wraithwing and as one of my attempts, i set off all the trapdoors and opened the red gate. as i was seeing how far I could draw him to me, i accidentally went to level 15, thrice west. now when i go back or try to restore the room, it puts me in the leftmost corridor. how do i get back to the start??
Can you restore to a point in one of the other rooms?
That worked! I was afraid I'd have to redo the previous room (1N3W), but it restored to my last checkpoint, which was almost done. Thanks!
02-19-2007 at 02:50 AM
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slopoke wrote:
That worked! I was afraid I'd have to redo the previous room (1N3W), but it restored to my last checkpoint, which was almost done. Thanks!
Glad to be of use :)
02-19-2007 at 03:58 AM
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I found this room to be really frustrating. Probably the hardest room I've ever beaten without having to first watch a demo of somebody else beating it. First I kept dying, because of that one wraithwing that you can't kill at first, but that would follow me and kill me when I was trying to kill the first 2 eyeballs. Then I tried entering from the north, but I wound up with 2 wraithwings left. So when I got to the part where you are supposed to finish off the last wraithwing, I needed to take an extra step south to put both wraithwings between me and the wall. This made it impossible to step on all the trapdoors. (I didn't notice it at the time, but I also made a stupid mistake that would have left me trapped anyway.)

I eventually managed to beat it, and made a demo showing how frustratingly tedious it is to kill a wraithwing when there are only 2 or 3 of them and you have nothing to pin them against.

Since only one attachment is allowed per post, I guess I'll do the victory demo first, then the one where I got stuck. Then a picture from just before the end of the one where I got stuck. The reason I made this picture is because there's a bug (or very bad design decision) in the demo-recording feature: It cuts off the demo immediately after Beethro's last move, instead of just stopping when you press F5 to stop the demo. Which would be a good thing if somebody went to go eat dinner, then came back to the computer to realize they forgot to press F5, or if the demo playback feature did not automatically return you to the demo menu the very instant the demo is done playing. I think DROD's demo playback should be changed so that when the demo is done, it says "playback completed" at the place where scroll messages normally appear and it waits for you to press a key, instead of automatically taking you back to the demo menu.



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Demo where I got stuck.
01-11-2008 at 06:02 PM
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Screenshot from the "oops" demo, taken immediately before the last move.
01-11-2008 at 06:07 PM
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Demo from the Steam version, since Urgugg's is giving an error.

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This is probably the best place for this hint thread: https://forum.caravelgames.com/viewtopic.php?TopicID=9115

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