Songsmith
Level: Delver

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Hi. I'm quite new to DROD - but I'm totally addicted! I even stay late at work to play on a faster computer than I've got at home!!



I've read all the previous posts on this level, but I keep getting a load of bugs betwee points 1 and 2 that I can't make move anywhere.

Please, please, please can anyone offer me another hint as to how to finish this room, before I go mad

TIA... n I'll be yur bes fren frevrnevr (well... maybe...!)
Jan

Oneiromancer
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I think the simplest hint is to try again when entering from the East. You should be able to manipulate the roaches more easily that way.

Game on,

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Nillo
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There's a trick in this room:

It's not required to do things that way though.

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DiMono
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Nillo wrote:
There's a trick in this room:

Click here to view the secret text

×You can lure roaches into the passage to the east and kill them

It's not required to do things that way though.

Gah! Curses on you for reminding me of something I haven't done yet! Now I'm going to end up going home and playing that room for two hours instead of installing VS.Net (I love my school, I get free software legally). Seriously though, I've always used your method, I've not been able to defeat the room without doing it. Maybe it's the lazy in me...

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Songsmith
Level: Delver

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Thank you for your help.

I finally conquered the room, and escaped this level.

Now for level 10...

Jan

Heenavah
Level: Goblin

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I am having the same problem as songsmith. I knew you could catch the roaches in the "bridge" as it were, and I've been coming in from the east, but that doesn't seem to work. Any clues? any?

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That's it! I've had it with this accursed game! I'm just gonna go play freecell and drown in my misery. <sniff>

That's it. Just smile and nod.

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Heenavah
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OOOOOOOOOOOOhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! I got it now. Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevermind. I had a strooooooooooooooooooke.
(whoever can tell me what that's from gets a point)

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That's it! I've had it with this accursed game! I'm just gonna go play freecell and drown in my misery. <sniff>

That's it. Just smile and nod.

Mattcrampy
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The Simpsons, I believe. There's a fancy waiter that keeps drawing out everything he says, and when questioned about it, he replies, "I had a strooooooooke!"

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Heenavah
Level: Goblin

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Now, Matt. Did you really need that point? Come on.

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That's it! I've had it with this accursed game! I'm just gonna go play freecell and drown in my misery. <sniff>

That's it. Just smile and nod.

Mattcrampy
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Oneiromancer's like on 1500 points. Sure I need them! I can't just give them to myself any more.

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wiseoldman
Level: Delver

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Oneiromancer wrote:
I think the simplest hint is to try again when entering from the East. You should be able to manipulate the roaches more easily that way.

Game on,

There are only 3 threads for 4N2E and none seem to help me. I still cannot get roaches that line up in columns 11 & 12 to move where I can get them.

More details would be appreciated as entering from the East doesn't seem to allow the roaches in columns 11 & 12 to move to "meet their death".

The attached graphic will show where I get stuck.

Thank you

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Kevin_P86
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wiseoldman
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Kevin_P86 wrote:

Click here to view the secret text

×The right-most orb can make your life a lot easier

Click here to view the secret text

×Also, there's more "roach chambers" (for lack of a better word) than you need. Perhaps you can use one for something other than trapping roaches.

Thank you for responding to my "cry for help". Unfortunately, I still am at a loss as to what you mean by "... use one for something else other than trapping roaches." I assume you mean to raise the barrier before roaches enter. If this is the case then only the lower right chamber would satisfy this. But I don't see how this would help.

No matter which entrance I enter or where I move after entering I still have roaches remaining in (11,9)-(11,17), (12,9), (12,10), and (12,17) (more or less). How do I get these roaches out of those squares?

I can kill all the roaches that "pile up" on (14,X) and (15,X) to the East using the barriers on the East. I sure am missing something here.

zex20913
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wiseoldman
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zex20913 wrote:

Click here to view the secret text

×Check the orb associations carefully (click on the orbs).

Click here to view the secret text

×Can you use this to your advantage?

Click here to view the secret text

×One of them is a toggle.

Yep, I figured that out the 1st thing. And now, the "light bulb" just CLICKED! I was not considering the now empty chambers that I could move in to draw the roaches to where I wanted them. Man, so easy but yet so hard. Sometimes you can't see the trees for the forest.

Many thanks to all you posted their hints.

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[Last edited by wiseoldman at 12-05-2006 12:39 AM]