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Author Name:Hartleyhair
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Hold Name:Pandora's Box
Theme:Easier Swordless Manipulation
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Number of Levels:5
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Version:DROD: The City Beneath (3.1)
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I originally intended to submit this as an SS but it soon transpired that it wasn't really good enough. So I've added a story and released it onto the Holds board. It's a short Hold, it's not too hard, and is quite a good way of getting into swordless manipulation.
04-09-2008 at 09:43 PM
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Well it was good enough to totally knock the evening I had planned right off the rails. Conquered the hold but still have 2 secret rooms and that unrequired room left in order to master it. I will enjoy my #1's for a few hours only I'd guess, but it's nice for now. (And it moved me up to 64th overall and closing on Jatopian.)

Overall a very enjoyable hold. Many of the rooms were simple enough, though, having not played much since last June, the swordlessness was a new -- and therefore good -- experience for me.

A couple of the rooms were really... frustrating, but solvable in the end. (Thank you very much to CuriousShyRabbit and Rabs for their in-game help.)

Favourite room: Wrath: 2S, 1W - nowhere near optimised this room but I learned a lot about aumtlichs. I also enjoyed watching the adder gobble up slayers in Cruelty: 2S, 1W

Least favourite: Cruelty: 2S, 1E - this was just, er, cruel, for me anyway. Although again, I learned a lot in the process; but it's thanks to CuriousShyRabbit's help that I still have hair on my head.

I can't speak for those who have lots of experience with the 3.x engine and characters, but for me this was a really good hold to play. I have a much better understanding of aumtlich and slayer behaviour now, as well as using other characters to manipulate outcomes.

Thanks very much hartleyhair.

(Also, this is the very first hold I have ever completed before anyone else -- except beta testers of course -- so I will always think of it fondly. :D )

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04-10-2008 at 07:40 AM
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Glad you enjoyed it!

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Conquered the hold but still have 2 secret rooms and that unrequired room left in order to master it.



You don't need to conquer unrequired rooms to master the Hold.

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Cruelty: 2S, 1E - this was just, er, cruel, for me anyway.


Oh, you'll love the Cruelty secret room then... :devil

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04-10-2008 at 09:23 AM
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Oh, you'll love the Cruelty secret room then... :devil
Yes, you evil person. I found it last night and may I just say how glad I am that I had stepped on a checkpoint near the end of the previous room. Otherwise... But at least it seems manageable.
04-10-2008 at 03:50 PM
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Well, you can move through it without conquering. In beta testing, it was the only room I needed to provide a demo for (although that was partly because of my poor hint-giving).

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04-10-2008 at 04:04 PM
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Unfortunately the Cruelty secret room creates an unintended solution in another room. :(
04-11-2008 at 06:34 AM
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Oh, yeah, I guess it could. Hmm.. guess that #1 is gone huh?
04-11-2008 at 07:01 AM
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Well, it was already gone, now it's just gone more :)
04-11-2008 at 07:18 AM
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Thx hh for a hold involving Beethro with no sword. Some pretty tough rooms mixed in.
04-11-2008 at 12:53 PM
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Innovative hold and very hard!!! :w00t

I give 9 difficulty and 7 overall :P
05-08-2008 at 12:01 AM
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