CervAnteZ
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Hi all!
First of all i know there is a thread concearning this room, i read it and it didn't help me finish this room....
I've been stuck on this for a month now, the rest of the level is clear, please someone spoil me the fun and give me a walkthrough for this!!

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I know you said you read it, but honestly, besides supplying you with a demo for the room (which are willing to do, but only as a last resort), I can't see any way to give a walkthrough besides what krammer gave at the end of the thread you said you read: http://www.drod.net/forum/viewtopic.php?TopicID=1613&page=0#14532 . Perhaps if you told us how you failed, or why the walkthrough krammer gave wasn't good enough, we would know better what advice to give.

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Heh, this will probably get me classed as a hypocrite but...

I wish I hadn't though, I kicked myself when I saw the answer.

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Use the entrances carefully. Although the holes in the wall are 1 square wide, it allows you to step onto three trapdoors on the other side. Since you need to enter and leave 3 times, that requires 12 entrances/exits to the area, and there are 12 you can use (1 near the red door at the top, which is used last.

Just be careful to go through a 1 square wide passage of trapdoors thoroughly. If you are going to block off one in going to the orb, clear the passage first, then return to the orb.

[Edited by agaricus5 on 01-13-2004 at 11:30 PM GMT]

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CervAnteZ
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first of all, sorry about the delay!

How i failed:

I read all the forum entries carefully. i know about the entrances and about using them 3 times, my problem is about the ways within the trapdoor room, i keep removing too many trapdoors as it seems... so while in the middle of it all, although i would still have enough entrances but not enough passages to and from them, also the space around the orb seems to get too less after the 4th 'door'.

any demo or 'keypress-walkthrough' would be great. I know you all dont like to see someone cheating, but as it seems several peeps passed this room due to a bug in an earlier version which would in my opinion qualify as cheating as well.

CervanteZ

sims5000
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T' tell you the truth I skipped level 15 (not incourging you to do it though)

The_Red_Hawk
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I worked on it for a long time and in the end couldn't get two of the rooms, so I skipped it too.

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CervAnteZ
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could you tell me how you skipped those rooms? is it still possible or was it just in that old version?

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It was only possible in 1.5 (the older version), due to a bug - the stairs would be open even if you never entered these rooms.

If I could, I would post a demo, but my current DROD installation doesn't have a savefile of DD that reaches that deep.

[Edited by eytanz on 01-17-2004 at 09:43 PM GMT]

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Kniggit
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Here's what I did:

agaricus5
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Diagonal stepping in open areas helps as you can pass a route you've taken already several times.

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CervAnteZ
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while i'm really grateful for all those hints, be assured that i tried them all, but still fail in the end. It seems this kind of riddle just isn't my cup of tea, i feel a lot more comfortable with legions of roaches and lakes of tar around..

So, anyone please got a demo of this troublesome room for me please?

CervAnteZ

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File: KDD Lv15 1n3w.demo (1.9 KB)
Downloaded 399 times.
License: Other
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Here you go.

Maybe seeing how it's done will help a bit. Have fun.

Edit - Sorry I put you through that trouble. Here's the real demo. Now go and solve the room.

[Edited by Skylancer64 on 01-19-2004 at 02:24 PM GMT]

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CervAnteZ
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Dear Skylancer64,

there is no need to make fun of me as i am already in a miserable situation.

For all the others wondering: His demo shows him entering the room, turning around once then leaving it again -> very helpful.

CervAnteZ

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Ack! Sorry if I insulted you. I didn't mean to at all. For some reason, I had that other demo where I did just enter and exit the room and I exported the wrong one. Many apologies. The real demo is up now.

[Edited by Skylancer64 on 01-19-2004 at 02:28 PM GMT]

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CervAnteZ wrote:
For all the others wondering: His demo shows him entering the room, turning around once then leaving it again -> very helpful.

Man, that was funny. Like Beethro just entered the room, looked around, and said "yeah, right," and departed. Made me laugh.

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Since it wasn't intended, yeah, that was pretty funny.

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CervAnteZ
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got it! seeing the first three orbs being opened did it for me and i managed to continue from there by myself!

THX!!

CervAnteZ

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I too am stuck on this one but when I open the demo it does not play.
Do I need to download anything?


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Go into the room, press F6 (I think) and there will be a list of available demos. Click Import, import the one you want, then play.

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Skylancer64 wrote:
Ack! Sorry if I insulted you. I didn't mean to at all. For some reason, I had that other demo where I did just enter and exit the room and I exported the wrong one. Many apologies. The real demo is up now.

[Edited by Skylancer64 on 01-19-2004 at 02:28 PM GMT]

the real demo is not up, unless it's somewhere other than the f6 key. and I want to cheat. email the demo to me or post it here. H E L P please. thanks

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luckypuppy2 wrote:the real demo is not up, unless it's somewhere other than the f6 key. and I want to cheat. email the demo to me or post it here. H E L P please. thanks

Silly question: did you remember to import the demo after pressing F6?

[Edited by DiMono on 09-14-2004 at 03:05 AM GMT]

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DiMono wrote:

luckypuppy2 wrote:the real demo is not up, unless it's somewhere other than the f6 key. and I want to cheat. email the demo to me or post it here. H E L P please. thanks

Silly question: did you remember to import the demo after pressing F6?

[Edited by DiMono on 09-14-2004 at 03:05 AM GMT]

yes I did and the only demo I can get is the "in & out" one. maybe I'm doin' it wrong. I'm in the game.press f6..... screen comes up.... I import ... and only get the kdd 9/1/04 "in & out" any ideas??

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File: KDD Fifteenth Level 1N3W Victory.demo (1.8 KB)
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Hmm... I seem to recall reporting about a bug very similar to this in the Bugs forum. Maybe you should go dig it up and post that you have the same problem.

Anyway, demo attached.

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I just skipped the whole of level 15 as soon as I saw 1s2w or whatever that annoygin room is.

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DiMono wrote:
Hmm... I seem to recall reporting about a bug very similar to this in the Bugs forum. Maybe you should go dig it up and post that you have the same problem.

Anyway, demo attached.

thanks,but (hate to be a pain) what program do I need to watch the demo. when I click the link my windows media trys but won't. can I import? it from here? or can I find it in the demo file whithin the game?

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Nice as it would be to have Media Player recognise DROD demos, I think that's not likely to happen.

Save the file to somewhere on your hard drive, then start DROD. Load up the room you're having trouble with and press F6. A menu type screen will appear. Press Import, then browse to the demo file and click Ok. Now you should see the demo in the list to the left, Select it, press Watch and you're away.

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wackhead_uk
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There must be some way to convert them into media files...unfortunately I am guessing they are stored as a sequence of moves rather than an actual video of the room, or else it would be a huge file and would not look right if someone had recorded it while playing a mod of DROD.

*cough*DRODIS*cough*

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Maybe we should put the demo question in the FAQ?

I've been here only a few weeks, and I still see everyone asking that question

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I haven't seen anyone else, but I dont look at any topics apart from the new ones or the interesting looking ones, which is not a good idea, because like this thread, conversations can easily go