masonjason
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File: Roach.zip (14.5 KB)
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Through a simple graphical alteration, you can now experience roachhood first hand! Instructions enclosed in zipfile.
EDIT: Sorry, it seems the file attachment didn't come through the first time. How humiliating.

[Edited by masonjason on 01-09-2004 at 09:22 PM GMT]

[Edited by masonjason on 01-09-2004 at 09:22 PM GMT]

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Before I grab that file, two questions:

Can you still kill things?

Can it be undone?

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DiMono wrote:
Can you still kill things?

It's simply a graphical change. So yes.

Can it be undone?

Instructions are included for how to do and undo it.

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I use the same method to make the pictures for the suggestions page - I've got a rather complicated one that requires me to replace brains, Beethro, yellow and red doors and orbs. Shame I can't draw.

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File: RoMic.zip (14.6 KB)
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Cool!
Trivial extension to the parent post; nearly fixed mimics and roach eggs.

[Edited by levelthirteen on 01-12-2004 at 12:59 AM GMT: ambiguity error on regex \\w+\\s\\w+\\S;]

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Wierd bug:

If you grab an invisibility potion...
then you become a transparent Beethro.

But if a roach (or anything else, haven't tried it yet) enters your field of smell, you become a transparent roach.

~joker5

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It's like that guy from the Ben Stiller superhero movie. He's invisible as long as nobody's looking at him. Can't remember what the movie was called, though... Mystery Men

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DiMono wrote:
He's invisible as long as nobody's looking at him.

That's like Schrödinger's Cat - Is the cat dead when we aren't looking at it? Transposed to the context of the entire world, it reads - Does anything exist when no-one is looking a it?

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agaricus5 wrote:
That's like Schrödinger's Cat - Is the cat dead when we aren't looking at it? Transposed to the context of the entire world, it reads - Does anything exist when no-one is looking a it?

I'd say yes, because you think of that something, ergo it exists (if only in your little personal universe). If a tree falls in the forest, and no-one is there to hear it fall, it makes a sound if you believe it does.

Does anything exist when no-one is thinking of it ?
Does everything you think of exist ?

Just now I created and destroyed a couple of infinite universes just for fun. Does that make me a murderer ?

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agaricus5 wrote:
That's like Schrödinger's Cat - Is the cat dead when we aren't looking at it? Transposed to the context of the entire world, it reads - Does anything exist when no-one is looking a it?

I took a course on quantum computation a while back, and it was really interesting to learn that things, basically, really don't exist unless "something" is looking (i.e. interacting) with them at that moment.

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mrimer wrote:I took a course on quantum computation a while back, and it was really interesting to learn that things, basically, really don't exist unless "something" is looking (i.e. interacting) with them at that moment.

Actually, that's really only true at the quantum level. Things aren't so sketchy at the macroscopic level...there are just too many other things interacting with them than some passive observer. You don't just need to observe a quantum object to collapse it's wavefunction; if something else interacts with it then its state will also be determined. If that something else is quantum also then the final state will be a probability distribution. Put together a million probability distributions and you pretty much always get a definite result.

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Interestingly, most of the fun conclusions quantum physics comes up with also don't apply at the macroscopic level. This is a real shame - I think the wave-particle duality should let me go through walls, although admittedly I can go through very thin walls. And make a mess.

Hmm, I guess it's not as much of a dilemma as I thought.

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Actually, if you're patient enough then you can go through walls. Since all particles are in motion, if you push your finger against a piece of paper wait long enough then some particles of your finger will move to beyond some particles of the paper. If you do this for a sustained amount of time (like, say, millions of years), then eventually part of your finger will be entirely beyond the paper. Swap person for finger, and swap wall for paper, and the rest falls in to place.

Anyway, shouldn't this comversation be in the Anthing forum by now?

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Well, it's related to DROD.

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There are bigger offenders in the General forum, and if they go more offtopic they'll be moved.

But then there's not as much need to move topics around on this forum anyway, which is why they haven't already been moved.

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The_Red_Hawk wrote:
Well, it's related to DROD.

Yeah, there should be a feature (in 1.7?) where after trying to move against a wall... say... a gazillion times, you can pass through it. Just to make DROD quantum-compatible.

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Mister wrote:

The_Red_Hawk wrote:
Well, it's related to DROD.

Yeah, there should be a feature (in 1.7?) where after trying to move against a wall... say... a gazillion times, you can pass through it. Just to make DROD quantum-compatible.

Knowing Erik's sense of humour, and knowing how many a gazillion is, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if this actually made it in to 1.7

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DiMono wrote:
Knowing Erik's sense of humour, and knowing how many a gazillion is, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if this actually made it in to 1.7

Since DROD stores your moves as you make them, by the time you make a gazillion moves, you'll run out of virtual memory. After just a measly billion moves, that's a Gig of memory to store your moves.

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Schik wrote:

DiMono wrote:
Knowing Erik's sense of humour, and knowing how many a gazillion is, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if this actually made it in to 1.7

Since DROD stores your moves as you make them, by the time you make a gazillion moves, you'll run out of virtual memory. After just a measly billion moves, that's a Gig of memory to store your moves.

I don't know, my friend, some of those computers we've got today...

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masonjason, I downloaded your graphics and I continued to play around with more enemies. Can I use your roach/roach queen/roach egg/roach mimic graphics in my upcoming hold?

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You can't.

The graphic changes will only affect your DROD and those of the people that have also downloaded it and changes the file.

If you want people to play the hold with the changed tiles, then you will need to ask people who play the hold to change the files on their computers.

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DiMono wrote:
Knowing Erik's sense of humour, and knowing how many a gazillion is, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if this actually made it in to 1.7

But then architects could design rooms around it. And you could also make a room easier by making a shortcut. All you have to do is leave a marble or something on top of the correct key and let it sit for a couple of days.

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Um, assuming 30 moves per second -

You could make 1,800 moves a minute.
You could make 10,800 moves in an hour.
You could make 2,592,000 moves in a day.
It would take you over a year to get to a mere billion moves.

Now, I'm not sure how much a gazillion is, but it's definitely not less than a 1,000 billion.

And even if you were immortal and infinitely patient, DROD still runs on Windows so it's unlikely that 1,000 years would go by without a crash.

This would be a pretty safe feature to add in.

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eytanz wrote:
DROD still runs on Windows so it's unlikely that 1,000 years would go by without a crash.

If by "1,000 years" you mean "1 week" I totally agree with you. Stupid Microsoft...

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agaricus5 wrote:
You can't.

The graphic changes will only affect your DROD and those of the people that have also downloaded it and changes the file.

If you want people to play the hold with the changed tiles, then you will need to ask people who play the hold to change the files on their computers.

I know. I will be having those two files zipped up (the hold, and the general tiles) when I release it. Don't worry.

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eytanz wrote:
Now, I'm not sure how much a gazillion is, but it's definitely not less than a 1,000 billion.

Gazillion isn't actually a real number. How about vigintillion?

This would be a pretty safe feature to add in.

I suppose, but what's the point, really?

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DiMono wrote:
If by "1,000 years" you mean "1 week" I totally agree with you. Stupid Microsoft...

I went months without Windows XP crashing. I was so impressed.

Now I need to clean something out, but I'm not sure what. It was working so well on a clean install... sniff...

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I've gone... actually, XP has never ever crashed on me, since I got this new computer. Not once. It's been just over a year now, and when you consider the fact that my computer is pretty much running 24/7, that's quite amazing. They really improved on the stability this time around. The only crashes I've ever gotten are due to certain memory-hogging games overstepping their limits. *coughPLANETSIDEcough*

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[linux-plug]
See, this is where linux kicks Windows right out the door. If a program crashes under linux, the rest of the system keeps running. It's only one program that's having issues, so it's only that one program that crashes. Plus you can do hot-swaps of most of your hardware without fear of... well... anything at all. Oh yeah, and it's free.

Go Go Linux!
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DiMono wrote:
See, this is where linux kicks Windows right out the door. If a program crashes under linux, the rest of the system keeps running. It's only one program that's having issues, so it's only that one program that crashes. Plus you can do hot-swaps of most of your hardware without fear of... well... anything at all. Oh yeah, and it's free.

I like to play devil's advocate, so...

I've been using Windows XP Pro since about the time it came out, and Windows 2000 and WinNT before that. Being a coder, I probably have more destructive code being executed than the average user. It is *extraordinarily* rare that one program has taken down my machine. In the last several years, I can't even think of one example. The closest is actually DROD, which due to one recent bug I was unable to kill the DROD process without rebooting. Everything else was still running fine though, so it's not like DROD took my system down.

As for the Win9x series of OSes, that's a different story. I can't count the number of times I had memory errors in programs that took the machine down.

I do agree that Linux is awesome though - unfortunately I'm not able to use it at work, however, as people who use our software generally have Windows machines.

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