disoriented
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I had a lot of trouble with the original room upon which this is based (Abyssian Fortress 2N 1E). For that one I needed to follow a demo step-by-step.

So it's no surprise I'm stuck here as well. I'd guess that:

Maybe a strong hint or a demo please?

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CuriousShyRabbit
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This room is not that different from the Abyssian Fortress room. I'd suggest going back and watching different people's solutions to the Abyssian Fortress room.

A comparison:

Key facts that you will need to use:

disoriented
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CuriousShyRabbit wrote:
This room is not that different from the Abyssian Fortress room. I'd suggest going back and watching different people's solutions to the Abyssian Fortress room.

A comparison:

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×Abyssian Fortress
Gel need not grow out into the room.
You can mostly avoid being attacked by gel babies.

Undercity
Gel need not grow out into the room.
You will be attacked by at most 4 brained gel babies after every spawn.

Key facts that you will need to use:

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×Gel blobs do not grow when disconnected from the mother.

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×It is possible to disconnect the gel blobs from the mother by breaking only one piece of the crumbly wall that separates the gel blob from the mother blob. So it can never grow back. See Abyssian Fortress demos.

Thanks CuriousShyRabbit. But from all the demos I've seen in Abyssian Fortress, the player uses gel babies to block the growth of gel. When the babies are brained as they are here, they won't stay in place, so this is impossible.

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Disoriented, you might want to expand the number of demos you are viewing for that room then...hopefully one of them is of this other way. (You can see up to 25 in-game, the setting is on the CaravelNet tab of your profile on this forum.) The intended solution, which isn't enforced in Abyssian Fortress but is in The Undercity, is to, as CSR says, only break 1 crumbly wall while still separating the gel blobs from the gel mother. Thus 1 gel baby will be formed at each location, where the crumbly wall was, but that is manageable.

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disoriented
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Oneiromancer wrote:
Disoriented, you might want to expand the number of demos you are viewing for that room then...hopefully one of them is of this other way. (You can see up to 25 in-game, the setting is on the CaravelNet tab of your profile on this forum.) The intended solution, which isn't enforced in Abyssian Fortress but is in The Undercity, is to, as CSR says, only break 1 crumbly wall while still separating the gel blobs from the gel mother. Thus 1 gel baby will be formed at each location, where the crumbly wall was, but that is manageable.

Clever! Thanks.

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Problem is, even though I can prevent the gel from growing out easily, I CAN'T prevent gel BABIES from growing out, and that's what is really getting me. The dash to get to the gel mother is always cut short by a gel baby moving onto a plate, making me waste time and letting the gel mother grow onto the one space I can even use to kill her in the first place, or the gel baby just kills me anyhow.

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