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Here's another new kind of challenge: finding out which level of Dugan's Dungeon has more of an element than any other level. For example, we're looking for things like most monsters, most doors, most potions, most trapdoors, etc. This may be less of a challenge than some other kinds of challenges, but it just happened to come to my head, and it might result in a nice survey. :)

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12-03-2003 at 01:41 AM
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Heehee...I vote for Level 15 for most trapdoors...and level 21 for most monsters.

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Not necessarily - 21 has slots of slaying, but for actual monsters in the room to start with, it's probably more likely to be a level like 5.

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12-03-2003 at 03:30 PM
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Here's another new kind of challenge: finding out which level of Dugan's Dungeon has more of an element than any other level. For example, we're looking for things like most monsters, most doors, most potions, most trapdoors, etc. This may be less of a challenge than some other kinds of challenges, but it just happened to come to my head, and it might result in a nice survey. :)

-Noah

I bet you that Schik or one of the developers will write a program that will strip bare the item count for each level and expose it for all of us to see.

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12-03-2003 at 05:37 PM
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Not necessarily - 21 has slots of slaying, but for actual monsters in the room to start with, it's probably more likely to be a level like 5.


Ah, so very true. But when I read it, I thought about how many were killed, not started with. Open to interpretation, I suppose.

Least monsters though: Level 13. My nomination.

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13 wins "most walls"

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I dunno about level 13 winning the most walls award. All the space in between is space, making the room about only half walls. I don't know which level would be, but I would think there's one with more walls. One with a bunch of small rooms. 13 certainly wins the most wall edge award, if that can be even considered.

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Hmm... Level 13 has the most rooms, right? And...level 6 has the fewest.

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Isn't 13 4x5 - 1? I think that has it for most rooms.

Note: I'm not at a computer with DROD installed, I'm going from memory.

I think Webfoot 17 has fewest rooms required to finish level though, when the cleared all rooms door wasn't there and you could just walk north twice and leave. I think it's level 17, don't remember which.

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It was 21, actually. Not that I got that far, but I remember it being discussed at some point.

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Level 5 has at least 22 rooms.

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Do monsters that are spawned while Beethro is in the room count?

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Do monsters that are spawned while Beethro is in the room count?
I don't think so, since you could just sit in a room indefinitely and have infinite monsters

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I just took a spin through the overmaps, and level 13 is 5x5 - 1, and there are a bunch of levels with 11 rooms.

Here's the high-low room counts:
6: 11
9: 11
10: 11
11: 11
12: 11
16: 11
18: 11
21: 11

13: 24 (5x5 with one unaccessable)

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Level 25 is the one with most 'Neathers.
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Nice one. :lol

I feel I should say something related as well, so I put level 9 up for "most pre-orientation" 16 is second, because they don't all require pre-orientation.

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Yes, nice one. :lol



[Edited by The_Red_Hawk on 03-02-2004 at 07:01 PM GMT]

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What about for user-made holds?

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What about for user-made holds?


I know I should've replied much sooner, but I think that should be allowed, now that there are so many user-made holds.

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The most arrows might be 19.or maybe 3.

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Every level has just 1 Beethro. You can prove that in editor. (Try to place another in other room).

I've not counted but I'm pretty sure that level 3 has most arrows. (2S2W...)
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I have counted and I am positive that 14 has the most goblins.

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Are there really 12 neathers? (per the other thread). I always thought of it as 1 neather... after all you only kill him once, and the other rooms are considered done before you kill the neather.

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He always starts in the middle of the room.

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Because beethro can't get to the next room fast enough to see him move from the edge to the midle.

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But in 2s2w he can't get to where he doesn't just appear there. How did he start there? :huh

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The orb at 2 opens the door at 2, and closes doors 1, 4, 5.

When the Neather entered the room, the door at 1 must have been open. He entered the room, hit orb 2, then ran to where he is when Beethro enters.
12-19-2004 at 02:34 AM
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The deal with the 'Neather's starting position is probably the same with 2S. One of the sets of double doors would be open when the 'Neather enters, then he goes through the open yellow door near the beginning of the room, then through the open pair of doors, then to the orb section where he closes the door pair he came through. I don't know how the crumbly wall would've gotten there though, unless the 'Neather used his mallet to create a small cave-in.

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12-26-2004 at 06:52 AM
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Level 5 has the most pits. or maybe 4.

[Edited by rowrow at Local Time:02-04-2005 at 09:38 PM]

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