porcorosso
Level: Delver
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Well then , my head is hurting...
I can only figure out how to do this minus one snake .
The problem is ofcourse that the west roach must be used to kill
the last snake at the bottom(south) (as far as I can see) while
BEFORE that i must use (or at least free) the northmost roach,
which then allways gets the other roach trapped in an ugly place
The best I could do was trap it agains the southwesternest diagonal
arrow, but then when it is freed it ofcourse cannot reach the
northest snake just above it, what can a poor delver do ?

larrymurk
Level: Smitemaster

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Does this help?

jbluestein
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This is a very clever puzzle.



I've been fairly oblique. If it's not enough, let me know.

Josh

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porcorosso
Level: Delver
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Thanks Josh and Larry , got it now very cool room

ch23
Level: Roachling
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Sorry, but I don't understand how to work to go three times in northmost row, without trapping the western/southern roach (one time is possible with the middle snake, but otherwise?); welcome to an little hint...

jbluestein
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ch23 wrote:
Sorry, but I don't understand how to work to go three times in northmost row, without trapping the western/southern roach (one time is possible with the middle snake, but otherwise?); welcome to an little hint...

Small hint:



Bigger hint:


Josh

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ch23
Level: Roachling
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Thank you; my problem was in the "where it is possible".
the simplest obstacles are sometimes most difficult to circumvent...

JoolsC
Level: Goblin
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I have only managed to find 2 places where this is possible for me, I think I need a bigger hint or a demo please.

jbluestein
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JoolsC wrote:
I have only managed to find 2 places where this is possible for me, I think I need a bigger hint or a demo please.

Behind the secret tag is a picture that points out the three spaces where you can cause a delay.



Good luck!
Josh



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JoolsC
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I am now having a timing and positioning issue. I have figured out how to do everything but the moves around 2. If I kill snake at 2 and get to next snake in the right position I don't have an extra move, if I create an extra move I always seem to be left with the snake at 2 still alive. Help please!

larrymurk
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Try waiting for the next time the southern snake lines up again.

JoolsC
Level: Goblin
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I am waiting but not sure of correct position of snake to make my move. Where should head be? in sw se nw or ne corner of square? Should I move down 2 steps then up or just 1?

JoolsC
Level: Goblin
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It's ok thanks, sorted it after posting. Now on to the next room. This is a brilliant hold and very challenging, the rooms look simple but are all very tricky.