McFrugal
Level: Delver

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This room is unsolvable. If you open both the doors holding the roaches by sacrificing the fire elementals, the rays block the way off the island. You can enter the island and kill the roaches easily, but then you're stuck there.

What's the point of the little island in the SW corner? Is that supposed to be a Chen character-switch there, instead of a Rick? That would make it possible to do this room. Also, there seems to be an extra orb association on the first orb- it "turns on" the ray in the NW corner, which cannot be turned off in the first place.

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[Last edited by McFrugal at 05-15-2007 05:25 PM]

googa
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There's no problem with this room.

milia
Level: Roachling
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I can not find - how to come into confidential southern rooms 9 levels. Full deadlock.
Perhaps, I use not that character? But already 3 times has bypassed 9 level. With Riсk, with Berk and with Chen (where could). Help, help somebody.

At least, with what character to search and approximately where? So it would be desirable to find all secrets, but I was already tired to search 9 level, after all some rooms should be passed again.

I have found

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In English I do not speak. I read only with the dictionary.

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nobodybutyours
Level: Delver
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I think I had already absorbed the lessons hinted at by Googa's reply above before seeking out this thread, but I'm still apparently at a loss.

As far as I can tell, step one must be to have Jax strike the rightmost orb simultaneously with the free fire elemental, necessarily with it on the top (arrow) and Jax on the bottom.

That frees the second elemental.

Now I think I get the concept here -- and I understand how to use the small island to switch Jax's orientation so he can keep the second elemental alive during the leftmost-orb-hit -- but I'm not seeing what permutation of orb hits will result in either:

a) No sacrificed elementals (so that Jax can still navigate the entire mainland).

or b) only the left elemental alive, both doors opened, but with the horizontal laser off at that moment (so that the left elemental can sacrifice himself and simultaneously kill all six roaches).

Am I missing something? It seems like one of those two options is necessary for the win-condition. Is there some way of getting the rotation of the two elementals out of sync with each other?

Or a way of doing it without both elementals being stuck on their arrows?

Attaching an image of the room start-state for reference.

(And is there really a reason for the right orb to link to the upper-left corner border laser?)

nobodybutyours
Level: Delver
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Ah, I figured it out. Perhaps Googa was referring to a different version of this room in his hints, because my solution and also

And it was a really obvious solution, too.

Hints for future travellers:



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