Schik
Level: Legendary Smitemaster

Rank Points: 5440
Registered: 02-04-2003
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File: KDD Tenth Level.demo (7 KB)
Downloaded 537 times.
License: Other
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Here's a pretty generic challenge: Complete any level in Dugan's Dungeon without dying. Attach a demo, starting at the entrance to the level, and finishing at the stairs. Let's see if we can get all 25 levels!

To get it started, I'm attaching a demo for Level 10.

Edit:
We finally got them all. Good job, guys.

I've put links to all the demos in this message. levelthirteen was kind enough to give me his source code for grabbing the time and move counts for each demo. It was in java, which I don't do, so I added the relevant bits into my existing PHP parsing code. I've added the times and move/room counts below just for fun.

Level 1 - StuartK - Time: 3:51 Moves: 1970 Rooms: 25 / 16
Level 2 - levelthirteen - Time: 23:43 Moves: 5193 Rooms: 49 / 17
Level 3 - zex20913 - Time: 11:53 Moves: 4405 Rooms: 39 / 20
Level 4 - Schik - Time: 9:27 Moves: 3280 Rooms: 25 / 12
Level 5 - levelthirteen - Time: 43:21 Moves: 7167 Rooms: 45 / 22
Level 6 - RoboBob3000 - Time: 20:15 Moves: 4295 Rooms: 20 / 11
Level 7 - Avon - Time: 13:47 Moves: 4444 Rooms: 26 / 16
Level 8 - StuartK - Time: 33:58 Moves: 5173 Rooms: 31 / 18
Level 9 - DiMono - Time: 36:51 Moves: 8059 Rooms: 31 / 11
Level 10 - Schik - Time: 13:34 Moves: 3898 Rooms: 22 / 11
Level 11 - Avon - Time: 13:10 Moves: 3286 Rooms: 22 / 11
Level 12 - Scott - Time: 14:02 Moves: 7399 Rooms: 23 / 11
Level 13 - levelthirteen - Time: 7:14 Moves: 1551 Rooms: 35 / 18
Level 14 - Schik - Time: 14:01 Moves: 3673 Rooms: 26 / 13
Level 15 - Schik - Time: 17:56 Moves: 7317 Rooms: 36 / 14
Level 16 - Avon - Time: 9:11 Moves: 4583 Rooms: 16 / 11
Level 17 - Avon - Time: 22:42 Moves: 5676 Rooms: 21 / 12
Level 18 - Scott - Time: 12:21 Moves: 3165 Rooms: 19 / 11
Level 19 - Schik - Time: 11:51 Moves: 3785 Rooms: 27 / 12
Level 20 - Schik - Time: 17:00 Moves: 5569 Rooms: 33 / 12
Level 21 - Kevin - Time: 23:49 Moves: 6983 Rooms: 19 / 11
Level 22 - Schik - Time: 30:38 Moves: 7076 Rooms: 27 / 12
Level 23 - tiercel3 - Time: 12:03 Moves: 3449 Rooms: 18 / 12
Level 24 - Kevin - Time: 15:54 Moves: 4856 Rooms: 25 / 13
Level 25 - tiercel3 - Time: 11:32 Moves: 3710 Rooms: 12 / 12

Sorted by person:
Schik - 4, 10, 14, 15, 19, 20, 22
Avon - 7, 11, 16, 17
levelthirteen - 2, 5, 13
Kevin - 21, 24
Scott - 12, 18
StuartK - 1, 8
tiercel3 - 23, 25
DiMono - 9
RoboBob3000 - 6
zex20913 - 3


[Edited by Schik on 02-13-2004 at 05:19 PM GMT]

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StuartK
Level: Smitemaster

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File: KDD Eighth Level The Entrance 1.demo (10.9 KB)
Downloaded 504 times.
License: Other
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To completely record a level playthough, you cannot die, or use a checkpoint (you can step on them, just not 'r'estore to them) or the demo will stop recording.

Here's one I made earlier, for level 8. It's not terribly efficient. I was trying to play fast (not well though) as well as complete the level, and I missed a bunch of tricks.

StuartK
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File: KDD First Level The Entrance 1.demo (3.6 KB)
Downloaded 416 times.
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Here's one for level 1. Speed play again, rather than most efficient route.

levelthirteen
Level: Master Delver
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File: KDD Second Level The Entrance2 1.demo (11.1 KB)
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License: Other
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One for level two. Incredibly boring to watch , since there is a lot of running around aimlessly near the end.

Scott
Level: Smitemaster
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Registered: 02-12-2003
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File: KDD Twelfth Level The Entrance 1.demo (7.5 KB)
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License: Other
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Level 12. I got a bit happy on the 5 key sometimes and had to wait for snakes to do extra laps.

levelthirteen
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File: KDD Thirteenth Level The EntranceSlow 1.demo (4.9 KB)
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License: Other
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One for me!

zex20913
Level: Smitemaster

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File: KDD Third Level The Entrance whole level 1.demo (6.8 KB)
Downloaded 404 times.
License: Other
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Level Three solved and undyingly conquered. On to...another level.

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Schik
Level: Legendary Smitemaster

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File: KDD Twentieth Level 1.demo (9.5 KB)
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And for the highest level so far - Level 20!

... And it only took me about a million tries.

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The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals.
--Mahatma Gandhi

Schik
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File: KDD Nineteenth Level.demo (6.7 KB)
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If I have to beat them all.... well, I probably won't. But I'll try.

Here's Level 19.


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The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals.
--Mahatma Gandhi

Schik
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File: KDD Fourth Level.demo (6 KB)
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License: Other
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Here's Level 4

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The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals.
--Mahatma Gandhi

RoboBob3000
Level: Smitemaster

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File: KDD Sixth Level.demo (7.4 KB)
Downloaded 348 times.
License: Other
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I've got Level 6 for ya.

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The_Red_Hawk
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If you start making a demo, it will extend to when you leave the room?

This is probably a bit late to ask, but.....

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Slashing, whirling, diving, twirling,
Snapping, turning, rising, swirling,
Screeching, flipping, gliding, sliding,
The red hawk's dance of death.

.....the king of the skies.....

Oneiromancer
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Yes, only if you manually start it. If you have it automatically record demos then it only saves a demo within a room.

Game on,

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"He who is certain he knows the ending of things when he is only beginning them is either extremely wise or extremely foolish; no matter which is true, he is certainly an unhappy man, for he has put a knife in the heart of wonder." -- Tad Williams

The_Red_Hawk
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OK.....

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Slashing, whirling, diving, twirling,
Snapping, turning, rising, swirling,
Screeching, flipping, gliding, sliding,
The red hawk's dance of death.

.....the king of the skies.....

The_Red_Hawk
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By the way, is it okay if someone restarts by accident or from a point where the room is obviously still solvable? Will it still be accepted?




P.S. Schik, I just saw your avatar. I'm guessing you like Calvin and Hobbes?

[Edited by The_Red_Hawk on 11-29-2003 at 12:25 AM GMT]

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Slashing, whirling, diving, twirling,
Snapping, turning, rising, swirling,
Screeching, flipping, gliding, sliding,
The red hawk's dance of death.

.....the king of the skies.....

Scott
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In order to make a whole level demo you need to restore to the level start hit f5 and play to the stairs without dying or restarting or the demo will stop recording.

The_Red_Hawk
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Ohhhhhhhhh...........

Why can't it do that?




Hmmmm, double post somehow.....

[Edited by The_Red_Hawk on 11-29-2003 at 05:17 AM GMT]

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Slashing, whirling, diving, twirling,
Snapping, turning, rising, swirling,
Screeching, flipping, gliding, sliding,
The red hawk's dance of death.

.....the king of the skies.....

eytanz
Level: Smitemaster

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You can delete posts - edit them and check the "delete" checkbox on the top.

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I got my avatar back! Yay!

tiercel3
Level: Roachling
Rank Points: 10
Registered: 02-23-2003
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Am currently recording level 23. It appears that the demo begins the last time I enter the room I started the demo in.

I.e. I start in the entrance. But to get from room to room, you have to go back through the entrance. When I replay the demo, it starts not at the beginning, but the last time I entered the entrace room.

This looks like a bug to me.

Scott
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When recording a demo like this there should be an entry for each time you go through a room. You need to choose the first one when you export.

tiercel3
Level: Roachling
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File: KDD TwentyThird Level Tiercel3.demo (6.1 KB)
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Ah, thanks for the knowledge. I did not understand.
Given that, here is a full demo for level 23.

It is tempting to record a demo for levels 24 and 25, but completing level 25 is all that stands between the smitemasters and all the rest of the roach squashers. Any opinions?

I have replaced the original demo upload with a new version which starts at the entrace as per the rules of the challenge.


[Edited by tiercel3 on 01-25-2004 at 05:09 AM GMT]

The_Red_Hawk
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Well, does it really matter? If people don't want to know the solutions, they simply won't look.

You know, this thread might become a place for people who *really* need help for stuff.

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Slashing, whirling, diving, twirling,
Snapping, turning, rising, swirling,
Screeching, flipping, gliding, sliding,
The red hawk's dance of death.

.....the king of the skies.....

zex20913
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I wouldn't go about advertising it. I think demos take away from the fun of beating a game, like walkthroughs do.

I don't think there's too much to worry about, as people who are asking for help on rooms probably won't be looking for challenges on it.

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tiercel3
Level: Roachling
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File: KDD TwentyFifth Level tiercel3.demo (5.7 KB)
Downloaded 427 times.
License: Other
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Here's Level 25.

I strongly recommend NOT looking at any of these demos before you solve the level for yourself. The real fun of DROD is how frigging hard the challenges can be at times and how cool it feels when you figure them out. Peeking at the solution alleviates the frustration, but denies you the satisfaction that comes from solving it yourself.

I peeked once at the hints. That was to get Level Seven Twice North Once West, but not before trying many many times with a similar, but mis-directed strategy.

The_Red_Hawk
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tiercel3 wrote:
Here's Level 25.

Wahooooo!!!!!

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Slashing, whirling, diving, twirling,
Snapping, turning, rising, swirling,
Screeching, flipping, gliding, sliding,
The red hawk's dance of death.

.....the king of the skies.....

levelthirteen
Level: Master Delver
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File: KDD Fifth Level.demo (14.6 KB)
Downloaded 400 times.
License: Other
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Here's one for level five.

DiMono
Level: Smitemaster

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Here's level 9. It's really ugly, as I had to leave a couple rooms and come back to them, but the challenge specs never said anything about being the most efficient route, so I present this for your perusal.

Something I noticed: In the entrance, after I started recording, I stepped on a waypoint. There are two versions of the demo, one from the waypoint and one not. Has anyone else noticed this? Is it a bug?

[Edited by DiMono on 01-30-2004 at 02:11 PM GMT: Wrong demo was uploaded, I'll replace it on saturday with (hopefully) the correct one]

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Deploy the... I think it's a yellow button... it's usually flashing... it makes the engines go... WHOOSH!

Scott
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It stopped on moving to the second room. Did you export the correct demo?

DiMono
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It does look awfully small, doesn't it... I'll remove the demo, and replace it with the other one when I get home tomorrow. Maybe it really wants that checkpoint demo...

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Deploy the... I think it's a yellow button... it's usually flashing... it makes the engines go... WHOOSH!

Schik
Level: Legendary Smitemaster

Rank Points: 5440
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File: KDD Fifteenth Level.demo (10.5 KB)
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License: Other
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Here's level 15. I screwed up the order and had to do a few of the rooms twice unfortunately, but I got through.


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The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way it treats its animals.
--Mahatma Gandhi