DarkFoX
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Hello!
I'm doing a spanish translation of DROD, but I'm getting trouble translating some words.
Some of these words are:

- Hold
- Delver
- Slayer
- Smitemaster

I need a good definition for these words, because they don't have a good translation in spanish
For example, I'll translate "Slayer" as "Killer/Assasin", but for "hold", I can't use the literal translation...
Please, help me... Give me some good definitions ^^

And, If anyone is spanish, try to help more

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silver
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hrm.

hold = dungeon? the definition would be "a connected series of rooms" -- technically, a 'hold' can include above ground areas, so it's not really a dungeon.

delver = explorer, specifically one who explores caves and interferes with what's going on. this is a made-up noun based on the verb "to delve".

slayer = special Imperial killer, tasked with slaying delvers. comes from English having several "less used" or "older" words for kill, such as "slay" and "smite"

smitemaster = a made-up word combining the verb "to smite" (to kill, righteously) with "master" ("master" meaning, in this case, not so much an owner/ruler, but an extremely skilled artisan). thus, an extremely skilled killer of monsters. Though in the game history, it's also a rank, so one can achieve "smitemaster" rank (higher than "smiter" rank) in the Smitemaster Guild, without actually being very skilled.


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KevG
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If you can't come up with a good translation, you might want to consider leaving some or all of the words as is. All four are essentially names and leaving them as is wouldn't detract from a Spanish-speaking player's understanding of the game.

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Tahnan
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DarkFoX wrote:
Hello!
I'm doing a spanish translation of DROD, but I'm getting trouble translating some words.
Some of these words are:

- Hold
- Delver
- Slayer
- Smitemaster

"Hold" is, roughly, "stronghold"--"keep" is another word for it. They're all medieval in flavor, if that helps in finding a good translation.

"Delver", as silver notes, comes from the verb "to delve", meaning "to dig", though it's also a little old-fashioned; the only really modern sense of the word is more metaphorical, e.g. "to delve into a subject" is to metaphorically dig into it: to examine it in detail.

And, again as silver noted, "slay" and "smite" are somewhat dated words meaning "kill"--the latter, perhaps, closer to "hit really hard". They both have a sort of Biblical feel to them: not religious in tone, but they were the kind of words more in use when the Bible was first translated into English (the "King James Version", so the first part of the 1600s).

Hopefully that'll help you pick words that capture the flavor. (Sorry that I don't know any Spanish at all, or I'd be more helpful.)

NiroZ
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For delver, I'd say that adventurer/explorer/fighter is best

AlefBet
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One thing that should probably be borne in mind is that "Delver" is a derogatory term used by the Empire to refer to Smiters and Smitemasters. You wouldn't necessarily want to choose a degrading word (since "Delver" isn't degrading in English, except in the tone used by the Empire), but I'd try to avoid choosing one that implies a nobility or respect.

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slimm tom
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I'd like to translate DROD to other languages, but how do i export the text list?

schep
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I've been around the source code a bit, and sort of know how localization works. So here's what I'd do if I thought I were qualified to do any translation:

1. Send an email to info@caravelgames.com describing my proficiencies and volunteering my time.

Yeah, I could do a bit of it on my own, but there's not much point unless it's going to be included in official binaries. Plus, modifying the hold itself (what characters say, as opposed to game texts like 'Importing hold') would clearly hit copyright issues if Caravel isn't the one doing it.

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slimm tom wrote:
I'd like to translate DROD to other languages, but how do i export the text list?

Run it with the -exportTexts <filename> option.

slimm tom
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It doesn't work for me. Could you please give some more detailed instructions?

Stefan
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I'm assuming that you're using Windows.

Go to the MSDOS-prompt (or whatever it's called) or the "Run..." dialog and type in the following command (change the directory if necessary):

"C:\Program Files\DROD - The City Beneath\drod.exe" -exportTexts texts.txt

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