Tablesaw
Level: Delver

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I'm having a difficult time with this level, because the stupidity of the stalwarts keeps suprising me. How exactly do they decide how and when to turn and attack different monsters?

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stigant
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Ok, what I found on this room is that Stalwarts work decently with roaches, and abysmally with goblins. You'll of course need one monster to kill the snake.

So I:

of course the real trick is

also, he's clearly going to have to kill the goblin, so you'll need to help him out as much as possible.


oh, in answer to your more general question, I found that the best way to was to take as much of the decision out of their hands. Figure out what they're going to do without monsters and worry about getting the monsters to them.

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Krissan
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Yeah, this had me puzzled too for a while. I used a different method though:



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Tablesaw
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Well, I managed to make it through the room by trial and error, but I actually was more interested in trying to figure out the movements of Stalwarts, because solving the room seemed to be nothing more than trying to avoid deaths that were completely mysterious.

Would the general question be better in the General board? I couldn't tell.

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Briareos
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Tablesaw wrote:
Well, I managed to make it through the room by trial and error, but I actually was more interested in trying to figure out the movements of Stalwarts, because solving the room seemed to be nothing more than trying to avoid deaths that were completely mysterious.

Yeah, Roaches and Stalwarts seem to share some common ancestry, seeing how they're almost equally stupid...

They just step in front of an enemy without turning their sword first, they don't backswipe, they don't run away...

(Sure, the last one would be hard to implement, but at least the first two would make them much, much less frustrating...)

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Adji
Level: Roachling
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Could someone post a demo? I just cannt kill the bloody goblin.

Adji

Nevermind, finally got it

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tokyokid
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I still can't beat this room! Any more hints?

bomber50
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File: TCB Frozen Depths 3N2W Victory.demo (6.9 KB)
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Here's a demo.