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icon The City Beneath : Interlude: Negotiations : 2 South, 1 East (0)  
ok, i think i understand the fegundo system. but...

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...i need some help...

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icon Re: The City Beneath : Interlude: Negotiations : 2 South, 1 East (+1)  
Keeping in mind that the roaches aren't brained, is there anywhere you can stand where they won't get to you?

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i try so. but can't be fast enough...

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Are you stepping north off the token? You need to minimise the number of steps from token to orb.

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got it!

thnx! ;)

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No problem. It's nice to see H&S topics for rooms I've actually done for a change :)

Incidentally, if you have CNet, the in-game chat is quite a good place to ask for help, with some judicious whispering.

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This is not my day...

What am I suposed to do here? I think I have to
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Step on the conquer token, and then you have control over the fegundo. He flies in the direction you are facing. When he runs into something, he explodes and everything next to him too. If he dies over pits or water, he is gone, but if he dies over ground, he comes back to life after a few turns.

So the roaches don't get you while you are directing him,

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I thought I have to direct this fegundo by stepping the negotiator in the required direction. You never stop learning...

Thank you!
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Hi
I'm struggling a bit here...

Edit: Sorry the effect worked again: just figured it out!! :thumbsup

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Where is the secret spot that you can hide from the roaches? After hitting the second globe, two of them seem to be able to find me wherever I go.
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thanks; it was the timing that you gave on the first clue that made a difference
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Hi. I just can't figure out how to get Fegundo passed the second diagonal passage.
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I am enclosing a demo of my failed attempt. Please could someone tell me where I am going wrong.
Thanks very much.

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It sounds like you are using Q and W to turn the fegundo. That only allows 1/8 turn per move. As you say, that doesn't work at that one corner where you are stuck.

When you are manipulating a fegundo with a swordless character, it will move in the direction you are facing. So, here, you can use the direction keys to move the negotiator and the fegundo at the same time. This allows much sharper turns.

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Thank you SO much CuriousShyRabbit. That is exactly what I was doing! Didn't realise it made a difference. I just learned something :thumbsup
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icon Re: The City Beneath : Interlude: Negotiations : 2 South, 1 East (+1)  
This works the same way if you're on Oremites, a level comes later where you'll need this information to avoid going insane.

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Unfortunately, I, too, am stuck at this point.

I've tried different methods, the most effective-looking being where I can manage to get one space south of the orb in the eastern chamber, in order to get past the yellow door blocking the fegundo's path. However, I am therefore unable to make the last sharp turn, due to the fact that there are at least three roaches above the orb. I'm assuming that this is the wrong method...

I have read everything in this topic, and am unable to understand how exactly I can manage to get to the orb and manage to make the sharp turn, with the roaches above me.

A demo would be appreciated (right after I upgrade from 3.0.0 - just bought TCB).

I've always hated Fegundo puzzles - when everything seems to be going easy, one of those comes along.

It's looking like a nicely polished game so far, though.

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There shouldn't be any roaches by the orb when you hit it.

The previous hints should help with that. But to summarize:
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Oh, that's what I was doing wrong! I was completely ignoring the fact that I could simply go ahead and hit the orb. How incredibly stupid of me...

Thanks for your help!

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icon Re: The City Beneath : Interlude: Negotiations : 2 South, 1 East (0)  
Well, I've beaten the room normally, but there's still the optional challenge - hit the fegundo token before turn 30, and clear the room. I'm not sure that's actually possible, because of the aforementioned issue of not being able to get out of the queen's room without being followed by roaches?

No, wait... that still works because
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That gave me JUST enough moves.

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