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This is partly an optimization issue, but partly more than that.

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11-30-2006 at 08:49 PM
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Do you want any hints?
11-30-2006 at 10:06 PM
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Blondbeard wrote:

Do you want any hints?

Not yet. Confirmation that I'm on the wrong track is enough for now, thanks.

Josh

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11-30-2006 at 10:44 PM
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OK, now I think I'd like a hint. :blush

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but by this time the snake has either died or headed off, depending

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12-01-2006 at 03:36 PM
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Strange... I can't see the picture in your previous post (blocked by Caravel pic appears instead), but I can see the attached one in your original post (which doesn't have the numbers on).

Did you paste the right room?

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And I must have played it since I finished this hold.

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12-01-2006 at 04:14 PM
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Syntax wrote:
Strange... I can't see the picture in your previous post (blocked by Caravel pic appears instead), but I can see the attached one in your original post (which doesn't have the numbers on).

Did you paste the right room?

The attached one was just a screenshot, while I used the Caravel 'insert image' mechanism for this latest post.

For the purposes of clarification, the 1 and 2 are 6 and 7 spaces (respectively) directly south of the decoy placement in the original picture.

(And I'm almost positive that it's correct -- it allows me to kill everything except for a single golem that gets stuck in the big door beyond my reach...)



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12-01-2006 at 04:18 PM
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Wow... OK. Guess I haven't played this far yet then. Sorry I can't really help.
12-01-2006 at 04:21 PM
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There are two ways to do this, I just realized.

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12-01-2006 at 04:35 PM
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Blondbeard wrote:
There are two ways to do this, I just realized.

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Ah. That's...really not what I was expecting. I still can't get it using the intended way (although I can get past the original problem, I just get overwhelmed by eyes at the second orb)...but I finally solved it using the easier way.

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12-01-2006 at 06:15 PM
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jbluestein wrote:

Ah. That's...really not what I was expecting. I still can't get it using the intended way (although I can get past the original problem, I just get overwhelmed by eyes at the second orb)...but I finally solved it using the easier way.

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Yes, I know. It's a pitty neither michthro, Rabscuttle or me found the easy solution during testing. It's an (IMO) even greater room if you solve it in the intended way. If you want to you can check out a demo to see how the intended solution is done.

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I haven't seen the demos, but if any solution escapes michtro and Rabscuttle in testing... well.. It must be a good one :)
12-02-2006 at 10:59 AM
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Syntax wrote:
I haven't seen the demos, but if any solution escapes michtro and Rabscuttle in testing... well.. It must be a good one :)

It seems to me like using the unintended solution ought to make it possible to optimize the room beyond what the intended solution gives you -- fewer eyes to contend with on the drive to the second orb. But you have to take them out eventually, so maybe it doesn't matter.

In any case, I've moved on. (Guard Tunnel: Entrance is now the bane of my existence.)



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Oh, yes... That room has a bit of a story ;) Rheb had made the room, but at the time he couldn't complete it. He thought it was possible, but he didn't know it until I compleated it.
12-02-2006 at 04:09 PM
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