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Avid readers of my posts will already know that there are two rooms on this level that are vexing me sorely. I have already asked for hints on the other one...so here goes.

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[EDIT: Progress! I can now make it to the square right inside the door before the bombs go off. So I just need to figure out what I'm doing inefficiently and I should be home free. I think I need to shave at least three moves off of my best.]

[EDIT: Aaand...solved. Three moves it was.]

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11-22-2006 at 06:33 PM
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So, which order did you take out the queens in?

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12-22-2006 at 01:28 PM
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masonjason wrote:
So, which order did you take out the queens in?

I don't have access to my demo here and won't for a while, but I seem to recall that it was:

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12-22-2006 at 07:40 PM
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I'm still getting stuck in this room. I've tried to note all of my inefficiencies, but I really cannot tell where I can do better. I've entered the room facing SW and hit the checkpoint by the knob on turn 20, kill both queens and ready to leave on turn 24. Then I need to do quite a bit of "wasteful" moves to kill some roaches in the upper section, and then kill both sets of queens/roaches. Then the southern section has a few roaches I need to lure out, kill, another spawn cycle, lure, kill, and then I made it just in time to kill everything. But that's WAY too late for escape!
01-18-2007 at 03:35 AM
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Oh, well... It seems like we have yet another room with multiple solutions. The following order of killing works just as well:
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Once you've eliminated the lower left queen, you have to spare a couple of moves to lure the roaches from the bottom. And then run to the bottom before the next spawn. The queens were killed on moves:
Click here to view the secret text

01-18-2007 at 07:28 AM
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I think I am indebted to your detailed hints. I am a happy man when Beethro narrowly escaped death. Onto next level...
01-18-2007 at 08:23 AM
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igusarov wrote:
Oh, well... It seems like we have yet another room with multiple solutions. The following order of killing works just as well:
Click here to view the secret text
Once you've eliminated the lower left queen, you have to spare a couple of moves to lure the roaches from the bottom. And then run to the bottom before the next spawn. The queens were killed on moves:
Click here to view the secret text

As it turns out, I checked my demo and I used the same order -- I was wrong about my original guess.

(Very impressive solution to 2E, though...that has got to be unintended.)

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01-18-2007 at 04:15 PM
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jbluestein wrote:
(Very impressive solution to 2E, though...that has got to be unintended.)
It sure is.
01-18-2007 at 04:26 PM
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igusarov wrote:
Oh, well... It seems like we have yet another room with multiple solutions. The following order of killing works just as well:
Click here to view the secret text
Once you've eliminated the lower left queen, you have to spare a couple of moves to lure the roaches from the bottom. And then run to the bottom before the next spawn. The queens were killed on moves:
Click here to view the secret text
My goodness. I can kill the first four queens OK, but miss the fifth one by one move and the whole room by three or so. I've been through this room over and over and over and don't see where I can shave anything off.

I've attached a demo . . . can I ask someone to let me know where I drop my pants?

Thanks -
01-25-2007 at 12:55 AM
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After killing the roachqueen closest to the middle of the room you make a mistake. It's not that hard to figure out, but if you don't want to you can read this spoiler:

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01-25-2007 at 08:57 AM
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Sheesh. That did it. Thanks!
01-25-2007 at 11:21 AM
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I am attaching a demo. Can anyone tell me where I can save I move? I must have gone over this a hundred times. I can kill all the queens on the moves mentioned (22, 40, 41 59 and 90) but am just one move short of stepping out of the way of the bombs.
05-18-2008 at 02:58 PM
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nitsua wrote:
Can anyone tell me where I can save I move?
You're very close . . . and the fix is straightforward.
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05-18-2008 at 03:44 PM
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nitsua wrote:
Can anyone tell me where I can save I move?
You're very close . . . and the fix is straightforward.
Click here to view the secret text
Thanks, I don't think i would ever have figured that out on my own.
05-18-2008 at 03:58 PM
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