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Here are my scores:

Chaco:
C: 8/10 - Pretty good, but I would have liked to see more golems in the corners.
D: 10/10 - It was difficult, butit is solvable. (did I spell that right?)
L: 7/10 - Nice look to it.

Total: 25/30
Grand Total: 69/90

Jamesdenem:
C: 10/10 - Had all of the elements.
D: 8/10 - Wasn't too difficult.
L: 7/10 - Looked good.

Total: 25/30
Grand Total: 75/90

Lst6:
C: 7/10 - The 5 queens were spread out too much. I thought they should be together in a box.
D: 8/10 - Wasn't too hard.
L: 8/10 - I liked the look, and the meter idea.

Total: 23/30
Grand Total: 69/90

I also went back and added up the previous totals to mine.


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There's a tie... there should be someone to break it.

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jjohn7418 wrote:
Chaco:
C: 8/10 - Pretty good, but I would have liked to see more golems in the corners.

The original had much more golems at the top, making it a whole extra roomlet to smite out rather than just cleanup.

Anyway, I don't really have any suggestions for impartial judges, but I'm sure one will show up pretty soon.

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Chaco wrote:
The original had much more golems at the top, making it a whole extra roomlet to smite out rather than just cleanup.

I was thinking more of the bottom corners. There were golems down there, but it didn't look like there was a way to get to them. I just thought since the theme requested golems in all 4 corners, they would have to be slayed as well.

Overall it was a good room. I haven't solved it yet, I have to work on my timing.

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Oh my, a tie! Now what, maybe we can just make a 3 day poll to sort that out. But really, those queens were not so difficult, I am bad in DROD and could sort them out in about turn 100.

Oh well, well see what our uber judge decides.

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I would be willing to contribute to the judgings, except I can't seem to find the criteria for this round anywhere...?

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Here they are.Quoted from Jeff's post in the first page:

Difficulty: /10 (Hard is good, but impossible is bad)
Correctness: /10 (Did you put the puzzle i asked?)
Look: /10 (How does it look in the map?)

And the theme for this round is quoted below as well:

The 4th round's theme is:

-Some rock golems in each corner of the room
-Five queens in a box of a maximal size of 9x9.
-Beethro faces back to the room when entering, and make this as part of a story.
-Give the level a plant theme.

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It said rock golems in the corners. It never specified that they had to be monsters or do anything

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Ok, here are my scores. Feel free to ignore them.

Chaco:
C: 9/10 - There were only golems in two of the corners. NPC's that look like golems are not golems, in my opinion.
D: 9/10 - Quite challenging - not excessively difficult. Took me two tries.
L: 8/10 - Looks pretty good.

Total: 26/30
Grand Total: 95/120

Jamesdenem:
C: 10/10 - Had all of the elements.
D: 7/10 - The scripting was at least slightly unintuitive, which certainly doesn't help. And not very difficult either.
L: 9/10 - Looked good.

Total: 27/30
Grand Total: 102/120

Lst6:
C: 9/10 - It does say "Five queens in a box" which I interperet to mean one box.
D: 7/10 - Completed with no trouble on my first try (i.e. not very difficult at all).
L: 8/10 - Looked pretty good. The meter idea was interesting, but was rather short-lived considering nothing more happened with it after 45 moves.

Total: 24/30
Grand Total: 93/120

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Ow, I lost! Oh well, then the story of Beethro and the stange tar/mud lover ends here,there where better entries anyway.

The event bar is not dead yet Kevin_P86, I may use it in future rooms, I just wanted to introduce the Idea. And when the patch is ready the cripting of this will be easier than now (those wait 0 effects is what I need)

Jeff, we are waiting for the final theme and my 3rd place banner.

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And with that I suppose I'll put in the score scrolls and upload the compilation.

Looking forward to the final showdown with jamesdenem!

EDIT:

Here it is, guys. Of course, as always, the "entry select" level follows the theme.

Since there were only three actual entries, I made optional challenges for both of the other two that make them... er... more challenging. That way the level had a bit more content, with seven rooms instead of four.

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I forgot about this. Since i don't have school today, i'll put in the theme.

-You must have at least one of EACH monster in your level.

-Include a scripting widget (do not use lst6's event clock)

-have the 'Deep Spaces win' or 'Finale' tune playing.

-Include at least one trapdoor, red door, orb, yellow door (open AND closed), green door, black door, crumbly wall.

-Have tar AND mud.

Good luck Chaco and jamesdenem!

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When will the entries be due? I think a little more time should be given since this is the finale.

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Intersting theme! I can't wait to see what the remaining contestants can dish out!

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Being only two, i should let them as much time as they need.

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A little bit of everything, huh?

Since I won't actually be able to hear the Deep Spaces Win, I suppose I'll take Finale (if I can hear that - otherwise I'll have to go install 2.0.12 again)

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I suggest we do something grand because its the finale. Here are some suggestions:

-A freestyle make-it-as-fun-as-possible theme
-I don't think some people can hear Deep Spaces Win, maybe another song would be nice
-a longer deadline
-a more interesting type of scoring and their maximum score:
Difficulty (D) - Out of 50 points
Originality (O) - Out of 50 points
Fun (F) - Out of 50 points
Correctness (C) - Out of 50 points
Look (L) - Out of 50 points

That would be great.

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Actually, my music script is like this:

Set Music Foundation Win
Set Music Deep Spaces Win

Since it doesn't change the music if you specify a music file you don't have, people with the demo hear Foundation Win and people with the full version hear Deep Spaces Win.

Also, Jeff already specified the theme.

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Hey, I've got mine pretty much complete. However, since jamesdenem here could potentially have an advantage if I posted it first and he looked at mine, I think we need to figure something out where neither could see the other until both are done - possibly emailing both of them to Jeff.

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Or use a uploader like ReUpload and PM it to me.

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I may not be as done as Chaco with the room, but I have my scripting widget complete, and I just have to add the enemies and look.

I don't mind exactly how we send in the final round, though I didn't look at the other rooms until after they were placed into the compilation.

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Unfortunately, my scripting widget isn't quite as impressive in that it doesn't really play as much of a part in the room, but it still took enough code so that I couldn't stick it all over the room. And it's still reasonably cool.

TCB will make such a device much easier to code though.

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Well, I am ready to make my room available for judging. I can PM it to you Jeff_Ray, if you want. Or I can just post it here.

Hopefully the scrolls I placed are descriptive enough so you will know what to do, and what is and is not expected with my scripting widget. There are two ways to solve my room, and I have checked both ways to make sure it is possible to solve either way, and it is.

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Just FYI, you definitely cannot send attachments with a PM.

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Well, I have decided to just place my hold here. I will trust that Chaco will not peek at it until he has submitted his or until after the judging, whichever works best.

I have placed the file with my last post so that you can read the semihints I gave.

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I've already submitted mine, but I'll wait for Jeff to judge. That's probably the first thing he'll do the next time he comes online; I doubt he'd come online just to say "Oh by the way I got Chaco's entry" and then leave again.

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I got the two of them, but i got trouble in chaco's room, and i will try soon jamesdenem's entry.

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I'll take that as a "I've seen Chaco's entry" and will proceed to download jamesdenem's entry.

I'll gladly attach mine a bit early if James wants to see it, of course.

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You can attach it here now. Now that james has submitted his...

BTW, i won't have the rankings soon. I'm in the english period of the year, but no computers working at school, and i'm sucked back in the video games world...

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Alright, here you go.

I think I ended up using the monsters in a better way but the scripting widget in a worse way.

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