Mattcrampy
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Yeah, Justice for All was not nearly as good as Ace Attorney. Apart from the aforementioned need for proofreading, there were a lot of places where Phoenix was asked to present something, and there were several choices which made sense.

The fourth case of Justice for All was really good, though, it's just a shame that it was hampered by those gameplay and presentation issues.

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On Phantom Hourglass. Secreted for mild details about content.

*Product does not actually exist, AFAIK.

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I just got that today as well. I'm thinking it's great. I bet if it continues being at the quality it is after two main dungeons, then It'll certainly be my favorite 2d Zelda.

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Ezlo wrote:
I just got that today as well. I'm thinking it's great. I bet if it continues being at the quality it is after two main dungeons, then It'll certainly be my favorite 2d Zelda.

The battle with is amazing.

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I'm on the SW map, and I am really enjoying Phantom Hourglass as well. I bought it the day of release but I'm taking it slow so I can savor the journey. I wish other Zelda games opened up the warp mechanic as early as this game.

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Almost every boss fight was incredible and memorable.

I totally forgot to give my opinions on them! Secrets!



As almost always, though, I want a boss-run function.

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Hmmm... Question about Boss 1:

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Ezlo wrote:
Hmmm... Question about Boss 1:

Click here to view the secret text

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What did you use the top screen for? I never noticed anything, I just kept boomeranging them over and over and over.

I also forgot to mention that I agree with zex that I still suck at getting Link to roll. In fact when reading the instructions after getting the game I saw that mechanic in there and thought to myself "that's never going to work right" and I was right. Everything else has worked fine though. Sometimes I wish the game would pause when I switch items but usually it's not a big deal.

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For the record, none of the Phoenix Wright games so far released in the North American and European territories have been native DS titles. The first game's last scenario was tacked on for the DS release, and it's a little disappointing they didn't do anything of the kind for 2 (or, apparently, 3), but not entirely surprising. I suspect it may have been an extra included on the assumption that that would be the only game in the series to see English release (it certainly looked like that would be the case for a while.)

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Contra IV looks amazing. That is all.

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I never knew they were making this, it's going right on my "Must get from Gamefly when it comes out" list.

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I am internet friends with the producer of Contra 4.

Protip: it's not coming to Europe. Import it.

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Also, the third Phoenix Wright game is awesome, go buy it if you even slightly enjoyed the first two.

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Did they hire a proofreader?!

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Well, I'm not the best at proofreading, so don't ask me. I didn't notice anything that I can remember off the top of my head though.

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There are still lots of little mistakes, many wrong tenses of verbs and occasional left-out articles and prepositions, but unlike in Phoenix Wright 2, the mistakes do not interfere with one's enjoyment of the game.

Also, it is amazingly coherent. The entire Phoenix Wright series makes sense after the final chapter, which is pretty extraordinary, considering.

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I finished Zelda: PH (almost, there's a couple of gems somewhere still) so I borrowed Puzzle Quest from a friend because t'ain't being sold anywhere obvious.

Complaints because I want to complain:
1. Hardly any puzzles (as other people mentioned)
2. Insulting hint arrow can't be turned off.
3. Stupid penalty for illegal move punishes me if I get bumped or accidentally drag instead of tapping.

But it is a good game for filling in the time to and from work.

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Insulting hint arrow can't be turned off.

Note that the hint arrow almost always puts you in a worse position than you would be if you did any other move. This might change your feelings about it.

Guys, Apollo Justice is awesome. Much better gameplay than the Phoenix Wright games, and the plot's more coherent and focused.

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I don't think it's out to get you. It does suggest moves that leaves your opponent in a good position, but I think that's because it doesn't look ahead at all. Just from observation, I'd guess its selection process is

pick a 4-in-a-row move if one exists
otherwise pick the three in a row that lets you immediately (not after the drop) collect the maximum number of thingies (so it prefers to grab multipliers or completing 2 sets of 3 if it can)

One other complaint: I can't see mana costs when I'm selecting which spells to equip. graghrgh.

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Apollo Wright suffers from the same proofreading issues that Justice For All and Trials and Tribulations suffered. There were at least 3 distinct typos. In a game like this (entirely text-based) that is a big part of QA.

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I don't think it's out to get you. It does suggest moves that leaves your opponent in a good position, but I think that's because it doesn't look ahead at all. Just from observation, I'd guess its selection process is

pick a 4-in-a-row move if one exists
otherwise pick the three in a row that lets you immediately (not after the drop) collect the maximum number of thingies (so it prefers to grab multipliers or completing 2 sets of 3 if it can)

The hint arrow is out for immediate satisfaction. It has no idea what will come from above, and when choosing between two equally good options (say, two 4-of-a-kinds) it will pick the one that immediately leads to a good result for your opponent half the time.

Sadly, I miss 4-of-a-kind matches so often that I usually wait for the hint arrow anyway. I rarely follow its advice if it's just another 3-of-a-kind.

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I would definitely get a flash card for all those "homebrew" games out there....

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manhammer wrote:
I would definitely get a flash card for all those "homebrew" games out there....

Definitely get an R4 card. Those things are easier to use than a pillow!

I like pillows...

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The World Ends With You: a game about fighting frogs and rabid wolves in the Shibuya district of Tokyo while digesting your ramen so that you can be brave enough to wear that bikini.

Actually it's a lot weirder than that.

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Yeah, I just got that game from Gamefly yesterday and was very excited to try it, unfortunately the moment I opened it up my DS decided to snap.

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malkav11 wrote:
The World Ends With You: a game about fighting frogs and rabid wolves in the Shibuya district of Tokyo while digesting your ramen so that you can be brave enough to wear that bikini.

Actually it's a lot weirder than that.

I second that. I even took my avatar from one of the more memorable characters.

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malkav11 wrote:
The World Ends With You: a game about fighting frogs and rabid wolves in the Shibuya district of Tokyo while digesting your ramen so that you can be brave enough to wear that bikini.

Actually it's a lot weirder than that.

Man, I love this game. It has no right to be anywhere near as good as it is. Accessible, deep, much more transparent and forgiving than most RPGs are (particularly Square-Enix RPGs, known for their Guide Dang It qualities), and it nails nearly everything it tries. One of the best games this year.

Edit: let me explain more. It's an action RPG, where battles take place on two screens simultaneously (though you can put one screen on auto-pilot while you get the hang of the game) - after the tutorial sections, the game lets you dynamically adjust the difficulty - difficulty changes the XP rewards and what drops off enemies, so even if you're an experienced player it's worth dropping down to ensure you get a particular reward. In addition, the game lets you handicap your HP in order to increase the rate items drop off enemies. Your attacks are represented by pins, which you equip and use in battle and have different effects, and winning battles earns you points for your pins, which levels them up and on occasion lets them evolve into stronger versions. Each pin also has a brand, as well - each street in Shibuya has a favourite brand, which players can influence. And your equipment are clothes, which are also branded. And there's no random battles. And you can level up shopkeepers, who'll give you advice and special back-room deals.

And all of this is tied into the plot, which stars about the only snotty teenager in JRPG history that has other characters tell him to shut up and grow up, thematic coherence that extends to the gameplay, and an excellent, fresh script that avoids descending into melodramatics (and while there is a little bit of stupid worldbuilding ala Kingdom Hearts, it's forced into post-game content and the point is that it's supposed to be nigh indecipherable. The game's plot itself leaves just enough unsaid.)

In short, it's great and you should play it. And Joshua is a massive jerk.

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Has anyone played Etrian Odyssey? I'm thinking of getting the sequel (which comes out in a month), but I'm not positive I'll like it.

I'm really into rougelikes (which I guess are "hardcore"?), but this is kind of a different beast entirely. I think I'll only like it if it has sufficient strategy in character/party building and the battles themselves.

Can anyone confirm that this is a good game?

EDIT: I see this game has already been talked about, and in this thread, even! Still, I'd like to be convinced one way or the other. Maybe some statements like "If you don't like ____, there's no way you'll like this game."

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Mattcrampy wrote:

malkav11 wrote:
The World Ends With You: a game about fighting frogs and rabid wolves in the Shibuya district of Tokyo while digesting your ramen so that you can be brave enough to wear that bikini.

Actually it's a lot weirder than that.

Man, I love this game. It has no right to be anywhere near as good as it is.

I've been playing it recently and I entirely agree - I'm only just beginning (free time is not one of my main assets these days), but I really like what I've seen so far.



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Got my sister's DS and I've now played up til mid week 2 and loving it so far. Everything is perfect! I'll certainly be taking this with me on vacation next week!

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