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I reached the exit and then was sent back! What?

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I reached the exit and then was sent back! What?
Me too. It's obviously just a consequence of how the code is written, i.e. snakes keep trying to move when they've reached the exit. Other snakes that have reached the exit are dead (because they can't jump back). It does mean that my partner Pinnacle won't have the satisfaction of seeing his snake tearing down the home stretch, but that's academic anyway.
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Looks like we are all going to die one way or another unless you took the longest way you could..... ;)

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I'm all for it.
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So of the four undecided snakes (Mattcrampy, Pinnacle, coppro, and Niccus), only one of them (coppro) has actually survived.

Pinnacle arguably should have survived except that the insidious michthro jumped back into the snake pit and cut off his only avenue of escape. Mattcrampy and Niccus bumped when they shoulda jumped, and are now doomed.

I realize it's a little academic, since they all have the option of being resurrected for the main event, but nevertheless I shall note that the real survival rate for the initial part of this contest was 40/64, or 62.5%. (I'm counting Pinnacle as having survived, since the only reason he didn't is because of an unintentional artifact of the pit construction.)

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08-17-2006 at 02:53 PM
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Actually, if I bump here, I'll still survive.

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08-17-2006 at 03:34 PM
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Actually, if I bump here, I'll still survive.

No, you won't. Your kind partner reached the end of his chamber and decided to jump back, cutting off your survival.
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Can someone please confirm that the GMT start time is 17-08-2006 23:00?
That isn't correct. The GMT start time is an hour later at 18-08-2006 00:00 (midnight).

If your profile time zone is set correctly (daylight savings too), but the time shown is incorrect, I'd appreciate if you report this as a bug on "The Site" board.

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In that case, something is still wrong.

The page tells me that the start time is "08-18-2006 1:00AM", and I am two hours ahead of GMT (I'm one hour East of Grenwich, and also one hour forward due to summer time adjustment). So according to that, the start time is 11pm GMT or midnight BST (British Summer Time).
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Actually, if I bump here, I'll still survive.

No, you won't. Your kind partner reached the end of his chamber and decided to jump back, cutting off your survival.
Coppro is still considered a survivor as long as he exits the Pair Chamber.

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He can't exit, but he *would* have exited if his partner would have stopped at the right edge instead of doubling back. The problem is that Michthro did a 180 U-turn and jumped right back *into* the pair chamber.

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Chris, have you got all your commands entered in? It looks like you are the only undecided snake left. I'd like to run a bunch of quick turn updates. If you've got all your commands entered as you want, then let me know.

And I realize that you would do perfectly well with no commands entered at all.

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Coppro is still considered a survivor as long as he exits the Pair Chamber.
Ugh, what am I talking about.

Pinnacle. Does he survive or not? He couldn't go down the same Pair Chamber exit as Michthro did, whether Michthro doubled back or not. Would Pinnacle have been able to reach the unclaimed exit if Michthro hadn't reentered? Yes. So I'll count Pinnacle as a surviving snake. Sorry about the doubling back problem--I didn't consider that.

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Chris, have you got all your commands entered in? It looks like you are the only undecided snake left. I'd like to run a bunch of quick turn updates. If you've got all your commands entered as you want, then let me know.

And I realize that you would do perfectly well with no commands entered at all.

Maybe I'm just unimaginative, but I can't see any path that leads to Chris's death. If he bumps on the next turn he's locked in for the upper passageway. If he jumps then he has a forced turn right and jump, followed by either a bump (which will force him into the lower passage) or a jump (which will force him into the upper passage).



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Chris, have you got all your commands entered in? It looks like you are the only undecided snake left. I'd like to run a bunch of quick turn updates. If you've got all your commands entered as you want, then let me know.

And I realize that you would do perfectly well with no commands entered at all.

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There's no possible way I can die, and hasn't been since I made the first jump. When the bottom snake finds itself alone in the pair chamber, it always escapes alive. I was just dragging it out as long as possible. :)

My queued moves are the only moves I was intending to make: JBJBJBBB, with the first 'J' happening in less than an hour from now.
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I have just 3 people who have contacted me asking for resurrection. They are Niccus, Maurog, and Banjooie. So at this point, those are the only snakes that will be resurrected.

Building the second snakepit now.

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Also, I want to point out that the resurrectees should plan to enter commands in the first 24 hours after the 2nd snakepit goes online. They'll have 24 hours of decisionless padding like everyone else, but decisions will need to be made to prevent death in the next few days.

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Ezlo resurrected. That's the last resurrection I'll accept. The 2nd snakepit is nearly finished and it would be too much work to modify it for 4+ resurrectees.

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So the contest is only going to have four people in it? :-O
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Ezlo resurrected.
Wait a minute...

I don't know why Ezlo asked to be resurrected. He exited off the right side and survived. I guess I will allow one more resurrectee since I have a chamber built for it.

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So the contest is only going to have four people in it? :-O
No, it will have 4 special chambers for resurrectees.

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I thought all dead people had to ask for it, my snake was dead. In fact everyone is dead.
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It's the Snakeocalipse!

sorry, it's 12:20am and I'm really tired

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Sort of on-topic. Anyone want to go see Snakes on a Plane?
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Sort of on-topic. Anyone want to go see Snakes on a Plane?

Snakes on a theoretical surface which has infinite width and length, zero thickness, and zero curvature? That could take a *really* long time to play out. No thank you!
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I count 40 survivors, 3 resurrectees, and 21 dead. My second snakepit was built for 44. One torture chamber for a resurrectee will be left vacant, I think.

Survived
Ezlo
TripleM
Hikari
Doom
silver
Tim
Mikko
Trick
Sergenth
Chaco
NiroZ
Beef Row
Jason
jbluestein
Watcher
McFrugal
zex20913
Ostegolectr1c
Michthro
Pinnacle
Coppro
Techant
Timo006
jamesdenem
Tahnan
kie
Jolima
Stephen4Louise
Chris
Darkmatt
goldenlion
eytanz
bflatjeff
Syril Ram
Tuttle
Someone Else
Kevin
Rabscuttle
RabidChild
Tyrion

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Niccus
Maurog
Banjooie

Dead
Brainy
Elfstone
Larrymurk
tokyokid
Mattcrampy
krammer
Pilchard VIII
captainzakku
Krishh
Penumbra
jaxpylon
znirk
NekoIncardine
Lst6
golfrman
Snacko
nabla
nobodybutyours
Marlowe
Stefan
Grumpf

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Nice looking arena, this is going to be fun! :D
08-17-2006 at 10:52 PM
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Why are we moving so quickly?
EDIT: Six dead snakes (not on a plane)

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eytanz is dead already. Is that supposed to have happened?

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Why are we moving so quickly?
EDIT: Six dead snakes (not on a plane)
I'm just testing. The snakepit will be reset at the contest start time, (Local Time:08-18-2006 at 01:00 AM) which as I write this is about an hour away.

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I think he set it as two minutes between moves, not two hours! :lol

EDIT: Also, the big picture just shows an x for me.

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