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Re: Heroine's Quest: riddles side quest (0)
PicaLudica wrote:
Zachski wrote:
PicaLudica wrote:
Zachski wrote:
PicaLudica wrote:
Click here to view the secret text ×" Grinding" Disrupt to the right level took me all of five minutes.  Just cast Disrupt repeatedly at the walls of Fornsigtuna. The spell will climb VERY quickly, even though you can never break the protective spell around the city. Which is weird, considering that it was created by a human, and that you're able to Disrupt barriers placed by the Aesir themselves (unless, of course, Aurvandel is not human  ). Click here to view the secret text ×One interpretation could be simply that Aurvandel is present to refresh the spell every time it's disrupted, whereas the Aesir are otherwise occupied.
Another interpretation is that Aurvandel is Odinn, watching over the city he founded. It's probably a simple act for the Allfather to use a glamour to disguise his missing eye. Click here to view the secret text ×Nah. Odinn is a bastard, no matter how you look at it. He's a cunning, harsh, unforgiving god. I really can't imagine him living among humans to look after them. In fact, can't imagine him living among humans at all, unless he had no choice or had some kind of hidden agenda.
But I am pretty certain that there's more to Aurvandel than meets the eye. If various tales and myths have taught me anything, it's not to trust the "senile old man" act. If nothing else, Aurvandel is a VERY powerful wizard indeed. You can't disrupt his protective spell on the city, and you can't disrupt the barrier that protects his lab either, that should tell us something.
Click here to view the secret text ×Odinn founded the city of Forsigtuna to begin with. He also hung around to form the Adventurer's Guild, I think. Pretty sure he cares more about humans than one would think. As far as the mythologies go... well, the ancient Norse worshiped Odin for a reason, and I don't think it was because he hated humans. Heck there are still quite a few people that worship him today.
As far as Aurvandel goes, you know how he looks like Gandalf? Well, aside from the lack of a missing eye, Gandalf is a dead ringer for one of the depictions of Odin as a wanderer, wearing a pointy hat and robes. Ergo, Aurvandel is also a dead ringer for Odinn.
Not to mention Odinn's habit of appearing as many things. Including a snake to sneak into a Jotunn lady's dwelling. He then seduced her, and succeeded. Though I'm pretty sure he returned to "human" form before he did it.
Actually considering Odinn's love of all people feminine, period, he probably has a special spot in his heart for the Heroine. Click here to view the secret text ×I'm not saying that he hates humans, just that he doesn't really care about them all that much. And wandering around and seducing various women is one thing, but actually living in Midgard is another.
As for why humans worship(ped) him, I guess it's the same as with any ruler: part awe, part respect, part fear (in various proportions). Love doesn't need to be part of the equation, at least that's the way I think about it. 
And as for the Aurvandel/Gandalf simile, the problem lies in the stereotypical depiction of any wizard character. The image of an old man with a staff, a long beard and a wide-brimmed hat may indeed be a throwback to Odinn - I believe he is, among other things, the god of magic - but then any stereotypical wizard would be a throwback to Odinn. Which, in fairness, is perhaps the point (again, god of magic, wisdom, etc.). But that alone would not justify an Aurvandel/Odinn theory, to me at least.
But I'm pretty sure Odinn would indeed have a soft spot for our Heroine. He does call her to Valhalla, after all. (She earned her place there, though.)
Sorry for the wall of text. ^^;;
Odin is not so much uncaring for humans as he is occupied with other matters. He was one of the three Gods who created them after all. But his primary concern is to stop Ragnarok, or failing that win it. By any means possible. In order to do that, he does some pretty nasty things, including raping a woman in order to make her pregnant (their son is the one who will kill Fenris).
Odin is beyond good or evil as we know it.
And yes, quite a bit of Tolkien's lore is taken from Norse mythology. After all Norse mythology was widely worshiped in Great Britain. Hurin, Durin, Balin, Dvalin are all Norse names of dwarves in Norse mythology for example. And much of Odin can be recognized in both Gandalf and Saruman.
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. It just made sense given that a lot of characters in the game are taken directly from myth. The developers seem to like to reverse their genders though - Liff and Lithrasir were originally the other way around 
