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Can someone give me a "flight-path" for this room, so I can survive the goblin attack?

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05-11-2009 at 11:45 AM
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So just to be sure,
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EDIT:did it your way, but can't get the eye's killed
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EDIT2: I saw what I need to do, give a minute ;)

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I allmost there, just one evil eye left.
Gues which one:
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05-12-2009 at 02:39 AM
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Where can I get my sword in position?

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05-20-2009 at 11:50 PM
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In adition to Rabbits hint:
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05-21-2009 at 02:10 AM
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I don't see a room where I could do that.
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So I realy want to know where to do it?

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I can pass the goblin part but i don't see any way to pass the eyes!

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You have to use decoys to kill some of the eyes before releasing the goblins. (Or after killing the goblins, if you can kill the goblins without entering the arrow-area). And just to make sure:
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Nope, it's pointing N from the last room.

EDIT: I got the problem. I can switch back my sword to NW in 3N.

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Ok got the sword SE, now i suppose i should go to complete 4N, right?

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06-12-2009 at 01:14 PM
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I've apparently gotten past this room before since I have demos unlocked for it, but despite that I still can't figure out how to solve the room the first time through.

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01-12-2011 at 06:22 AM
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To summarize the hints above:

This section of Lava Gates is part of a metapuzzle. You have to conquer the rooms in a certain order, based on limited opportunities to turn your sword.

You pass through this room (5N1E) twice. First, you run through without conquering and gain a new sword position. This allows you to conquer another room. In that other room, you get the opportunity to turn your sword again. Then you can come back and solve this room.

See Blondbeard's hints above for how to survive your first run through.
01-12-2011 at 06:42 AM
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Yeah, should have been more specific. I have read all the hints, know that I need to pass through the room and I have spent a long time trying to do so, but can't quite seem to get through it.

EDIT: As usual one more night of sleeping on it solves the room after a week of fiddling. H&S Syndrome how I have missed thee.

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01-12-2011 at 06:56 AM
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Anyone got a demo of getting past the goblins with sword pointing either (a) N, (b) NW? It's pointing N when you come through from 4N 1E, or alternatively you can go back to 3N and turn sword to face either NW or NE.

A couple of things I think I get:

(1) Can't do the first run through the room *without* hitting the orb and releasing the goblins, because of also having to release the eastern roach to shut the door and kill the eastern briar, to survive passing through (24,12).

(2) With sword pointing N or NE (or indeed E or SE), the room looks to be impossible. Because you can't kill any eyes with drones, and that means you can't safely pass through (24,14) and aggro two eyes at once.

(3) With sword pointing NW, W or SW, you could kill a few eyes with drones before releasing the goblins. NW is the only practical direction it can face before completing 4N (no way to arrive here with a sword pointing W, SW, S, SE or E under the circumstances), and see (2) above for the problems of a N or NE. The trouble is, a NW-pointing sword means that no drone can kill the southern eye - and the player cannot safely aggro it either. Also, if it were possible to get here with a sword in that direction, a W or SW-pointing sword *could* kill the lower eye, but not the brain.

(4) If one can somehow get here with sword pointing S, and kill all the goblins, all eyes can be safely aggroed and killed, and the bomb kills the brain, so I assume this is how the room is completed...

...So. Anybody got a demo of getting through this room with a NW-pointing sword? (I assume if the above logic holds, about the eyes, that it's not possible with a N-pointing sword.)

[EDIT] And... made it. Both with NW-pointing sword and S-pointing sword.

Now I can't find any other rooms, secret or otherwise, on this level, and it's not saying "level completed"...? Apparently the next level is called "Company" and I can't find my way down to it?

(I did find the way down to a room called "Hordes"... which wasn't what I was looking for?)

[EDIT AGAIN] DOH - I hadn't completed one of the earlier rooms (3N 2W)!

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