googa
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Strike the orb with Lucas from (21,7) before maneuvering the crate in the left chamber.

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Kevin_P86
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LOL coppro

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Ezlo
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Okay, I can't even seem to get past the first diagonal. I think I need to push up one box and let the ball push another one up, but I can't do it.

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As a side note, I am rather annoyed that I have to beat this room again after getting the new version of the game...! It's TOO HARD!

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googa
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Ezlo wrote:
Okay, I can't even seem to get past the first diagonal. I think I need to push up one box and let the ball push another one up, but I can't do it.

Here are the steps for the first and second diagonal Ezlo:

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Kevin_P86 wrote:
As a side note, I am rather annoyed that I have to beat this room again after getting the new version of the game...! It's TOO HARD!

You don't need to.

You just have to restore it.

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Kevin_P86
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I purposely didn't save my progress - I wanted to do it again. Besides, I just completed it again, and am almost back to the point I was with the Beta version (which wasn't very far - I think I was on level 8)

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Ezlo
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Okay, thanks. Got it.

BTW, there Chen's back-end of the staff seems to be longer while faced diagonally.

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I'm going through this game, and it's pretty darn cool. It's one of the games that has been recently slowing my maniacal DROD optimising. But I digress from the topic at hand, which is the room talked about. And I must say that, yes, it is a devious room, and I get the feeling that it might dissuade some less...dedicated...people from continuing the game.

I am enjoying the ways that the different elements act together. However, I think the learning curve is insane at some points. For example, the first time we meet up with orange doors is in that room with the eyes, barrels, and crates (unless there's a secret room before then, or my memory is failing). That's a pretty tough room to have a new element thrown at you. The item description is alright, but maybe adding some sort of a "testing area", like an orange button/orange door combo in a nearby room, with little to no effect on puzzle.

I still enjoy this game, and I'm looking forward to the new characters I'll meet, but some of the things are devious. Which can be good...but maybe I'd stick the forest of the dead in a later level. Even though it's self-contained.

I'm rambling. Take what you want from this post. It's tough, yet beatable without the hints, and I haven't found any alternate solutions.

As a total side note--I'm glad there's no high scores here yet...otherwise I'd be tearing my hair out, because I'd do a challenging room and then find out that larrymurk did it 100 moves faster.

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I'm going through this game, and it's pretty darn cool. It's one of the games that has been recently slowing my maniacal DROD optimising. But I digress from the topic at hand, which is the room talked about. And I must say that, yes, it is a devious room, and I get the feeling that it might dissuade some less...dedicated...people from continuing the game.

Thanks Zex.

I am enjoying the ways that the different elements act together. However, I think the learning curve is insane at some points. For example, the first time we meet up with orange doors is in that room with the eyes, barrels, and crates (unless there's a secret room before then, or my memory is failing). That's a pretty tough room to have a new element thrown at you. The item description is alright, but maybe adding some sort of a "testing area", like an orange button/orange door combo in a nearby room, with little to no effect on puzzle.

Yep, that lone orange PP in the middle of level 6 is a bit strange. I'll make a tutorial room to introduce it.

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I am enjoying this game a great deal and I have sent it to my co-worker who is now likewise hooked on it - so first off, great game!
But, I think that on the version that I have this (level 6 exit) room is broken. I have looked carefully through all the hints in this thread and the pictures that are here show a different room than the one in my game: the first two chambers are the same, but after going through the second diagonal it is different, there being no wide yellow gate, an extra fire where the posted pictures show a switch, and a different design at the end of the third diagonal.
I have gotten the crate to the center of the four arrows, and gotten Jax, but there is no way for me to go get the crate and come back up in time to keep the ball from burning up. It is also possible that I am making some fundamental mistake, but I don't think so.
Could someone please advise me on how I can pass this room and get on in this excellent game?
Thanks

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This room has changed a bit through the development of the game:



This is the updated image.

You can use the other hints, because only a few elements were subtracted for the sake of simplicity.

Thanks.

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I just wrote a long post explaining why nothing worked, and then I figured it out - luckily I hadn't posted it yet. I hadn't realized that

I feel stupid now, which is how it goes in most cases, once you figure it out.
Thanks for your reply, and thanks for this excellent game. I'm really looking forward to what's next.

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Thanks Urvile! Any problem, just post again.

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i can't even figure out how to get pushed diagonally on this one once, much less twice, i don't see how to get the ball onto the arrow that will divert it so that it will push me, without getting smooshed against the crate............DUH!!!!! let it push the crate first, blonde moment.

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Maybe someday I'll have the opportunity to respond to a help request for which the 'post and it becomes obvious' trick doesn't work. In the meantime, congratulations on your progress!