LordKinbote
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This room is killing me. I've gotten to the point seen in the attached picture, but I feel I've made a misstep, as I can't figure out how to get the arrow to push the box upward so I can put it on the pressure tile. I can get the box in place, but I lose the arrow.

Very well designed puzzle, but it's a doozy!

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LordKinbote
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Are you confirming that I haven't made a mistake thus far?

I figured I needed Jax...and I also knew I needed the box.

Sigh. I'll give it another shot.

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Heh, I don't remember. I'll try it now.

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I'm done. No, you're doing right.







Got it?

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LordKinbote
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Yeah, that looks like what I have, I think.

I'm removing the attachment now.

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Thanks.

LordKinbote
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Got it. Turns out I *had* made one single error...thank you!

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I am also having difficulties with this one! I eventually figured out how to get to the last part (Where I change into jax), but can't even figure out in theory how I'm supposed to get the box onto the pressure plate at the top. I did decide that perhaps I needed to get a different box up there instead of the one which the ball pushes into the fire when the door thing goes down, but it didn't seem like I would be able to get another box up there.

Btw, I'm really enjoying the game! My only comment would be to make some of the menu fonts bigger (especially the numbers in the restore screen at the top, and the stats text on the side of the map (and any other text that's the same size)).

Kevin

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+++++[>+++++<-]>[>+++>++++>+++++<<<-]>.>+.>-------.<++++.+++++.

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googa
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Thanks Kevin.

Some Hints:

Press: F12 to check cordinates.







Got it?

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Kevin_P86
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Yes, I just did - thanks! It was still quite difficult, trying not to lose the ball!

Kevin

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Birkoff
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Sad to say I think I'm gonna need spoilers for this one

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I'm not outnumbered, I'm just in a
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"A hero is no braver than an
ordinary man, but he is brave five
minutes longer."
Ralph Waldo Emerson

googa
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Where exactly are you having problems?

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Birkoff
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well I've been pushed diagonally 2 times

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I'm not outnumbered, I'm just in a
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googa
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I think a lot of people will have problems with this room. So I'll post an image to help.



Hope you guys understand this mess.

Red arrow: Is the only one path.

Orange arrow: It's the way out. You have to align the Ball, box and Jax.

Yellow: Take Jax, but don't waste the ball.

Got it Birkoff?

Birkoff
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Even sadder, I still can't do it
I lose the ball when I'm going back for the box...

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I'm not outnumbered, I'm just in a
target-rich environment

"A hero is no braver than an
ordinary man, but he is brave five
minutes longer."
Ralph Waldo Emerson

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Don't forget to turn the 15,18 arrow off when coming back. (F12 to check coordinates).

Tip: Use the light blue orb to keep the ball "looping", and to turn the arrow off.

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OK, here's where I am. I wait a turn for the ball to change direction. Then I hit the orb. Then I push the box over 1 and am 1 turn too slow.

Anyone see what I'm missing here?

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I hope it helps.

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But in this case it looks like I can not push the box any more.

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Got it?

coppro
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I wish I had your problem.

I can't get past FotD 2. Any hints (If I take the crate with me, I can't hit the orb twice to turn off the arrows.)?

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But if I push the crate here before hitting the orb, I'm stuck.

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googa
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Here it is, Larry:

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coppro wrote:
I wish I had your problem.

I can't get past FotD 2. Any hints (If I take the crate with me, I can't hit the orb twice to turn off the arrows.)?

Coppro, don't forget you can hit the orb with the hero, not necessarily using the ball.

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googa wrote:
Here it is, Larry:

I can not see how you get from the first clip to the second.
If you push the box up and then left, Jax gets stuck.

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Remember that crates aren't affected by arrows.

Move order from the first clip:

W, SW, N, E, SW...

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googa wrote:
Remember that crates aren't affected by arrows.

Move order from the first clip:

W, SW, N, E, SW...

That'd be the trick.
I didn't know crates weren't affected by arrows!

Thanks for all the help.

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You're welcome Larry.

My mistake, I thought I had put a

"Is not affected by arrows" message in the crate mouse over help file.

Already updated now.

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googa wrote:

coppro wrote:
I wish I had your problem.

I can't get past FotD 2. Any hints (If I take the crate with me, I can't hit the orb twice to turn off the arrows.)?

Coppro, don't forget you can hit the orb with the hero, not necessarily using the ball.

No, I meant the togglable force arrows. Look:

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