lalalalala
Level: Roachling
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I need help. I can't move the mimic to the upper right (or left). I can only clear front roaches and the roaches at the either side, but not three sides altogether.

larrymurk
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I'd say this looks nastier than it ends up really being.

Main strategy:


Little tips:



Good luck. Don't get slayed

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zaubberer
Level: Master Delver

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it's a little bit tricky because the slayer will follow you...



the great problem for me was the slayer...

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rowrow
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I cheated a bit in this room and I killed the slayer when it was easy. I might go around to all the rooms I did that to and redo them. But I didn't kill the slayer in level 18 where he is the most annoying.

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BolucPap
Level: Roachling
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rowrow wrote:
I cheated a bit in this room and I killed the slayer when it was easy. I might go around to all the rooms I did that to and redo them. But I didn't kill the slayer in level 18 where he is the most annoying.

How is that possible? I thought that the only way to kill the Slayer was using a mimic/decoy? Could you give a hint on how to do that?

Chaco
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It's difficult, but possible, as shown here.

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brainfingers
Level: Roachling

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Boy, if there's any one thing I've learned from this game, it would be humility. I would hate to be "that guy" and rerequest help, but I can't make heads or tails of this level.

When you say CC, do you mean counterclockwise in tight little circles to avoid the slayer, or as an overall progression? I think the tight CC circles is obvious, but I can't make that strategy work for me. Can you please elaborate?

Would it be helpful if I wait initially, and hold off the slayer, until all the roaches bunch up near me, or dash for the mimic potion as quickly as possible?

Lastly, I've tried using roaches as a temporary stop block so I can get the mimic to the west side of the room, but the angled north and south walls make that very difficult (not to mention the slayer).

Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!

edited for dyslexia

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Tuttle
Level: Smitemaster

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CC stuff:

Mimic use:

Roach-assisted movement (fairly explicit steps):

brainfingers
Level: Roachling

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Sorry to bump, but I just want to say thanks again. I finally beat it. That was a test of perseverance as well as wit. You guys are the best ever.

skip
Level: Roachling
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Would someone please share a demo of this room with me? I have been here for two weeks and still cannot do it.
Thank you

Blondbeard
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File: JtRH Twenty-Second Level 3N2W Victory.demo (5.3 KB)
Downloaded 271 times.
License: Public Domain

Here you go!

puchidevil
Level: Roachling
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Hi

I do not get the layout of this hold at all

I cannot seem to find out how to enter this room from the East. Same with room 1N1W

The rooms I have been in are - Entrance, 1W, 2W, 1N, 1N1W, 1N2W, 2N2W, 2N3W, 3N3W and 3N2W.

What have I missed out? Why cant I get into any rooms from the East?

Can anyone help please?

Kwerulous
Level: Smiter
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Hope that helps

EDIT - for 1N1W

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puchidevil
Level: Roachling
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TUT! lol

I didnt even see that trap door - they need to be bigger

Thank you

Moo
Level: Master Delver
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So I clear this room, go back in again...

Edit: The scripting is definitely wonky in here if you do unexpected things...

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robin
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The Challenge of this room:
Kill the slayer with the mimic and then leave the room.



Mimic is at "1" and Beethro on one of the "2"'s

Is that a good killing position?

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NoahT
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Elswyyr
Level: Goblin
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NoahT wrote:

Click here to view the secret text

×The mimic should remain south of "1" to avoid dropping the trapdoor.

Click here to view the secret text

×Try forcing the Slayer across that tile instead.

I've spent a while trying to do exactly that.

Dragon Fogel
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Checking my demo, when the Slayer is at 2:

KevG
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Dragon Fogel wrote:
Checking my demo, when the Slayer is at 2:

I assume this means Slayer at 1. If so I can't get him there with his sword in the suggested position and Beethro in position also. Any advice on how to do that or any other advice on how the heck to complete the challenge. Slayer manipulation has always been my weakest part of DROD. Well, I guess not always, but since JTRH.

Nuntar
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Position the Slayer near the south wall of the room, get him to face NW by approaching his "threatened area" from that direction, then walk towards him from the west with your sword NE. The Slayer will retreat (this is also the key to the killing method in a rectangular room with an obstacle in the corner). In this case, the shape of the wall means the Slayer will retreat to the position marked "1".

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KevG
Level: Smiter

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Thanks for the advice. Don't understand why it worked, but challenge completed.

Mertalo
Level: Roachling
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After many unsuccessful attempts, I think I need a demo (for the challenge)

Insoluble
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File: JtRH Twenty-Second Level 3N2W Challenge Complete.demo (16.1 KB)
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Demo attached. The method of slayer pushing that gets used here comes in handy an awful lot so you may want to try to learn it and practice it. The key is to have Beethro and the slayer against the same wall, with the slayer's hook and Beethro's sword both pointing diagonally towards each other but away from the wall. If the slayer doesn't have his hook pointing correctly, you can usually coerce him to change orientation by moving away from the wall for a turn or two then moving back on it. Once in this position you can move towards the slayer and he will retreat. The hold "Slayer Killing Hold" has a nice tutorial that shows off how to use this method in the first room.

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Mertalo
Level: Roachling
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I remember that hold, i think i even completed it. I just dont like slayer manipulation that much. Also H&S effect still working - manage to complete challenge without demo! Thanks anyway!