zaubberer
Level: Master Delver

Rank Points: 251
Registered: 03-29-2005
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i near to give up this hold. i see only two variations in this moment:

first one: i'm simply stupid. to stupid to understand these puzzles. (but the other ones were possible to me with som more informations...)
second: there (especially in this room) is not so much to understand but a lot of try-and-error-madness.

is there any rule to figure out this room?

zaubberer

TripleM
Level: Smitemaster
Rank Points: 1373
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Again, it needs no trial and error at all, once you realise what the actual problem is.

Have you heard of the 15 puzzle? This is exactly the same, except just a smaller size. You have 8 different symbols and a blank square that you start in - you have to end up with each of the symbols in their correct square (doors are the symbols / surrounded by red is what doors should be where).

All you have to do each move is slide one of the symbols next to the blank square into the blank square - by walking between the squares.

So if you label the 8 different symbols from 1 to 8 in some particular order:

123
. 45
678

Then you want to end up with

.

An example first move would be to slide the 4 to the left.

zaubberer
Level: Master Delver

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well, i now understand the basic idea of the puzzle, but not how to move the 8 pieces.

TripleM
Level: Smitemaster
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You are always standing in the 'blank' square. Just walk to the square that you want to move - opening any doors which are in your way using those three orbs. The symbols will pop up automatically as you do that.

zaubberer
Level: Master Delver

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thnx!!!

may be that my bad english is the reason why i not understood some (better: a lot *g*) of the rooms in this hold. finally i've got it.

greetings from erfurt/germany

zaubberer

deftriver
Level: Delver

Rank Points: 75
Registered: 07-11-2007
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This is the only room I have left. It just feel backwards to me so I can't think about it the way I normally would one of these puzzles.