Mouse
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Here's what I did:

1. Created a player in JtRH called "X".
2. Played the demo & downloaded a Hold to explore further.
3. Exported my AE player (also called "X")
4. Imported this player data into JtRH after importing the Holds I had played / was playing in AE.

Now what I have is two players called "X", one of which has the Hold I played in step 2, the other has the stuff I did in AE. Remembering which is which is a pain and I can't rename either of them.

I don't think this behaviour is intentional so I'm reporting it as a bug

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Keeping players with the same name created separately different is intentional.

Mouse wrote:
I can't rename either of them.

Try this: Select one of them, go to 'Change Settings', and change the name. That works for me.

Sort of. It looks like this suffers from the same bug that prevents shortening the name of a hold. Now I can't go from 'AndrewTest' back to 'Andrew'.

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Just make it "Andrt" and then make it "Andrew" and I think it should work.
Tell me if it works for you please. It works for me.

[Edited by rowrow at Local Time:06-03-2005 at 10:59 PM]

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Ah, but it is intentional. Imagine if you could just make a player named "Neil" and suddenly have editing access to Treasure Hunt without beating it? Or something similar for the official JtRH hold?

The uniqueness of each player is determined by some internal code. The name you choose for it is just a convenient way to express it...but the game doesn't care at all if there are two players with the same name. In fact, right now I just created two players in a row named "X"...no way to differentiate between them, but they definitely won't be sharing hold progress or editing rights.

Now...you can change your player name on the Settings screen, so you can make one called "X AE" and the other called "X JtRH", and that will help a bit. Unfortunately, I don't think there's any way at this point to combine the players.

Game on,

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rowrow wrote:
Just make it "Andrt" and then make it "Andrew" and I think it should work.

Yup, good workaround. Thanks.

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Hmm... it may be intentional but it's certainly not what I expected to happen.

I expected an "I already have Player X" warning message or something similar.

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Mouse wrote:
I expected an "I already have Player X" warning message or something similar.

And that's certainly reasonable...as a warning. But I was just saying that there are good reasons not to automatically assume that the same name is the exact same person.

Game on,

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In terms of hold progress, I think we made an "export hold progress" button or something like that. Don't have JtRH in front of me to check it, though. But that should allow you to move progress from one player to the other. (Hold authoring will still be separate.)

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AlefBet wrote:
But that should allow you to move progress from one player to the other. (Hold authoring will still be separate.)

This might work if the progress is exported and then imported like normal onto the other player, and it might not be to hard for the develepers.

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patmo98 wrote:

AlefBet wrote:
But that should allow you to move progress from one player to the other. (Hold authoring will still be separate.)

This might work if the progress is exported and then imported like normal onto the other player, and it might not be to hard for the develepers.

I'm not sure what you mean by "hard for the developers". It's already implemented, with the button "Export Saves Only." Try it out and see if it's what you want.

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AlefBet wrote:
Try it out and see if it's what you want.

It isn't quite what I meant. Suppose that I play DROD:AE under the name of "Beathro" and then play JtRH under the name of "Patrick". If I then export "Beathro" and then import it into JtRH I will have two player files. As of now their is no way for an enduser to combine them. When you say "export only saves" You can't import them under a diffierent player name. I was proposing the the devs allow you to export "Beathro"'s progress/demos and then import his progress/demos under "Patrick"'s name. What I am suggesting is that the game will include a "Merge" buttion that would do this:

1. Import only the saved and demos setting the ownership the player to be merged with from a .player file.
2. Like usual JtRH would have to then run the concisnancy check.

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patmo98 wrote:

AlefBet wrote:
Try it out and see if it's what you want.

It isn't quite what I meant. Suppose that I play DROD:AE under the name of "Beathro" and then play JtRH under the name of "Patrick". If I then export "Beathro" and then import it into JtRH I will have two player files. As of now their is no way for an enduser to combine them. When you say "export only saves" You can't import them under a diffierent player name.

Yes, you can. That's the whole point.


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eytanz wrote:
Yes, you can. That's the whole point.

I thought I tred it, but I will try again. I may have made a mistake.

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It doesn't actually inform you that anything happened. What you do is select the character you want to merge into, import the saves, and then you need to go to the restore screen and restore the latest room; it won't actually set the current room for you.

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I though it didn't work before, but now it seems to be working. I guess I imported it onto the wrong Player.