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Author Name:The_Red_Hawk
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Hold Name:Deep Hold
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Number of Levels:25
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Here you go.

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02-10-2006 at 01:04 AM
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That one is still not possible to complete. There's an inaccessible required room on the last level. Here's a fixed version.

Edit: I've also fixed the buggy stairs.

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[Last edited by Stefan at 02-12-2006 12:50 AM : new fix]
02-10-2006 at 03:11 AM
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For some reason, the process that generates all the images was taking up huge amounts of memory, and it finally got killed before it was able to finish. For now, I simply disabled image generation for hold updates so this could at least successfully update. So a few room images might look wrong on the forum until I have the time to fix this correctly.

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02-10-2006 at 03:44 PM
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wallu wrote:
Should stairs in L24:1S1E lead to Level 25? I ask this because they lead directly to level 1.
Yes, they should, and I think they did in a previous version (either that or I forgot that I had fixed them in my local version). I've attached a new fix in my post above.

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02-12-2006 at 12:53 AM
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After importing Stefan's fixed version I get the "this hold is not published on Caravelnet" message. How do I get around this? (I see Stefan has the hold conquered, so there must be a way.)
02-25-2006 at 08:07 AM
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michthro wrote:
After importing Stefan's fixed version I get the "this hold is not published on Caravelnet" message. How do I get around this? (I see Stefan has the hold conquered, so there must be a way.)
I played the last level a long time ago (most of it on 19.5.05, IIRC) after having made a local version to bypass the bug on the twentieth level. Because it would have been hugely unfair to upload those demos to CaravelNet at that time, I waited until the hold was updated. However, I still seem to have caused a slightly unfair situation when I failed to notice the stairs bug before uploading my progress).

However, It is possible to gain access to the 25th level and still have CaravelNet enabled for the hold. Just update to the (most) fixed version and walk down the stairs. Then downgrade to the version on CaravelNet and play the level (or upload your progress).

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02-25-2006 at 09:26 AM
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Ahhh... Thanks, Stefan. :)
02-25-2006 at 10:23 AM
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Incidentally, the "you must be using the editor" scroll in L10:1N1W is readable in-game.
04-01-2006 at 05:37 AM
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That's cheating, you're supposed to come in from the south. :P

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04-02-2006 at 03:05 PM
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Stefan wrote:
However, It is possible to gain access to the 25th level and still have CaravelNet enabled for the hold. Just update to the (most) fixed version and walk down the stairs. Then downgrade to the version on CaravelNet and play the level (or upload your progress).
I've fixed this in the posted hold.

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05-09-2006 at 03:23 AM
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If I'm not mistaken, there's a backtracking issue on the fifth level: it's possible to go north from 2N3E without having completed, say, the room to its south; and once you're in 3N3E/3N4E, you're not getting out.

Also: are the scrolls on this level meant to be blank, or did something strange happen during a code update?
12-11-2011 at 08:05 PM
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...and it looks like Level 7: 2N, exiting east, also has a backtracking problem. (These things do still get fixed, right?) Edit to add: Also, going west from Level 7: 1N1E.

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12-20-2011 at 05:48 AM
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Another "note from the past" to any poor souls who may be playing through this in the future: there's another backtracking problem in Level Twenty-One (Smiting in Vain): if you solve 1S first, then it's impossible to return through 1S to the Entrance. Combined with the fact that 1S1E is impossible from its western entrance, you're stuck and can't go forward or backward.

So, be sure to solve Level 21 1E and 1S1E before you solve 1S.

EDIT: Additionally, make sure you don't leave Level 24 The Entrance to the south (no matter how tempting it may be), and be sure to solve Level 24 1S1E and Level 24 1S *last* in the level, or again you will get trapped by the inability to go from south to north in The Entrance, or from south to north in 1S1E.

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01-23-2017 at 01:08 AM
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