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Guess it works in theory but I've started this room again and again, and see no way to get her off the top or west wall, never mind getting a spawn on that spot. Must be a trick I'm too stupid to see.
03-07-2006 at 10:57 PM
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If you really can't get it, I'm happy to send a demo.
03-08-2006 at 07:20 AM
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ON the door is no prob. But ain't no way in hell I can get her where I want and now all patience is shot. I spent the last few hours trying 2S1E also and thaat too makes no sense. Let the demos run, please.
03-09-2006 at 09:45 PM
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Okay, here's mine.
03-10-2006 at 07:03 AM
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But I can't see how to manoeuvre her into the SW quadrant. Can someone please give a slightly more explicit hint?

If that means you can't maneuvre the queen into the bottom left snake pen...

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1st I can't seem to move her into the top east pen. 2nd, if she is in there and i do manage to get her on the arrow in the pen entrance? If I am directly south of her and she spawns how in the world can I move NE of her being I am south of her?

And how do you (a) get her out of the NE by the orb without her ending up in the N entrance where you cannot move her, (b) get her out of the SE corner to anyplace except the yellow wall directly above her?

It is fairly easy to kill the snakes in all but the SW pen. So the problem is, how to move the queen there? What is the method?

Like 1S1W what is required seems impossible but I know it is... but how?

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05-09-2006 at 01:57 AM
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1st I can't seem to move her into the top east pen.

Well, I'm not the most efficient player here, but I just played the room again and was a lot better than last time. Anyway...

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2nd, if she is in there and i do manage to get her on the arrow in the pen entrance? If I am directly south of her and she spawns how in the world can I move NE of her being I am south of her?

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And how do you (a) get her out of the NE by the orb without her ending up in the N entrance where you cannot move her,

See above.
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(b) get her out of the SE corner to anyplace except the yellow wall directly above her?

Basically, you don't need to even let her get there, but just in case:

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It is fairly easy to kill the snakes in all but the SW pen. So the problem is, how to move the queen there? What is the method?

It's doable from either the NE or SE snake pens. I already described the NE pen method, the SE needs the queen to spawn a few tiles out the door so you can turn her SW.

Hope this helps... :)

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Getting the queen into the southwest chamber is the only way to off that snake. But it can be done.

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I have the queen in the NE pen. See my graphic. Now, how do I get her out of there and going SW to the last pen?


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05-11-2006 at 03:32 PM
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But I can't see how to manoeuvre her into the SW quadrant. Can someone please give a slightly more explicit hint?

If that means you can't maneuvre the queen into the bottom left snake pen...

Click here to view the secret text

np: A. Greenman - Discoethique (Microsolutions To Megaproblems)


Since the queen is always one square to the left of me and she will continue to move how can I get to be directly south of her? Seems like and impossible position to get into.

Perhaps there is another way to herd the queen into the SW pen?

Also, I have forced the queen from next to the orb to the left where she spawns. But I can't figure out how to get N of her to force her down to the SW pen.

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Since the queen is always one square to the left of me and she will continue to move how can I get to be directly south of her? Seems like and impossible position to get into.

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05-12-2006 at 11:13 PM
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Since the queen is always one square to the left of me and she will continue to move how can I get to be directly south of her? Seems like and impossible position to get into.

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... ok, kind, patient person :) ... I will give it a try ... now all i have to do is start the [room] all over again ... kill the 3 other snakes ... drive the queen into the NE pen ... and follow you detailed instructions ... sometime it is difficult for this old man to think :w00t

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Here is a demo of where I am. I have read the hints but still cannot get the queen down to the SW corner.
Thanks for any help.
04-11-2007 at 08:36 PM
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If you can get the queen into the lower central chamber:

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If you need more help, there is always the demo here.
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Is there any way to skip this room? I just cannot do it even with the demo? It is moving the queen that I cannot do.
07-14-2007 at 06:14 PM
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This is a required room, so you can't just skip it. You can either start over, and copy the demo exactly, or you can show that queen who's boss.

In your demo, you stepped on the checkpoint with the queen at (1)


To get her out of there,
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I am currently unable to get the queen into ANY pen.

I start at the NW corner. The queen immediately runs into the SE corner. I have no way to stop her going there, since no matter where I start, I am both north and east of her.

After which she runs up and down the east wall. If I go to the W corner, she runs up the east wall, and hides by the doors (whether they are open or closed: if I go to the NE corner, she runs down the east wall, and then along the south wall. I have tried getting her to spawn at any time, and she simply will not move far enough east to go into a chamber instead of into the south wall.

Let us assume that (a) the yellow orb has not been hit.

Let us also assume that (b) it WILL NOT be hit, because I wish to complete the challenge.

Let us also assume that (c) all snakes except the SW one are dead, they are easy to kill with ordinary roaches.

And that the queen is in the SE corner.

And that I am currently standing on the save point.

Can it be done from there?

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I don't think so. But...
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JLE wrote: The queen immediately runs into the SE corner. I have no way to stop her going there, since no matter where I start, I am both north and west of her.

...is that actually true? Look again at the room image in the post just above.

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I don't think so. But...
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JLE wrote: The queen immediately runs into the SE corner. I have no way to stop her going there, since no matter where I start, I am both north and west of her.

...is that actually true? Look again at the room image in the post just above.


...Oh. So if you come in on the most easterly possible point, you're directly north of her instead... that made a big difference, was able to complete not just the room but the challenge as well.

I'd still be interested to know if there *is* a reliable way to get the queen out of the far southeast corner without ever tagging the orb, though?

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Yes.

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