Maurog
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That number won't be too informative, as sadly there are still many holds with the last stair bug around.

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silver
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Yes, but thosee will go away. And the vast majority are completable (look at Stefan's list, or mine)


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leroy00
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I think the intent was that puzzle-less rooms were not supposed to register high scores. There are a lot of entrance rooms on the high scores page with 8 high scores of 2, in which the players apparently just re-exited the rooms via the stairway. It isn't possible to have a 1-move victory demo to remove the rooms from high score evaluation, but these high scores certainly aren't in the spirit which was intended. Maybe a "non-high-score" room flag in the editor would be a good idea as a work-around. Or a "no buttons, no monsters, no trapdoors (did I forget something)" == no puzzle evaluation?

-leroy

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patmo98
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leroy00 wrote:
Or a "no buttons, no monsters, no trapdoors (did I forget something)" == no puzzle evaluation?

That would be nice but I think bombs should be included.

wmarkham
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leroy00 wrote:
Maybe a "non-high-score" room flag in the editor would be a good idea as a work-around. Or a "no buttons, no monsters, no trapdoors (did I forget something)" == no puzzle evaluation?

How many rooms exist that have puzzles, no monsters, and no trivial demos? I would expect that these are extremely rare. For these rooms, the editor needs a mechanism to specify what "victory" means. (As far as I can think of, the goal of these would either be to enter from one of a given set of positions (& orientations) and leave from one of another given set, or to read some scroll.) Otherwise, there is no point in keeping track of the high scores to begin with.

Speicus
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Something's wonky with my high scores. It keeps saying I've explored holds I haven't yet (The Domain of the Grinfidel, Pelcho's Puzzles, Krishh's Castle). I'm not sure, but I also think it may be erasing scores for rooms in holds I have explored.

The positive side effect of this is that I'm playing more holds, because I think, "Oh, that hold sounds interesting!" and end up playing it after all.

Isaac

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Speicus wrote:
Something's wonky with my high scores. It keeps saying I've explored holds I haven't yet (The Domain of the Grinfidel, Pelcho's Puzzles, Krishh's Castle). I'm not sure, but I also think it may be erasing scores for rooms in holds I have explored.

There's something very interesting going on here.... I'm not 100% sure exactly what has happened, but I'm looking into it. I understand why it's saying you've explored things you haven't, but I don't see any reason it would erase scores you've previously recorded.

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Speicus
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Schik wrote:
I understand why it's saying you've explored things you haven't, but I don't see any reason it would erase scores you've previously recorded.

Well, it might not be erasing my scores, I might just be paranoid.

Isaac