TheEdge
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I must be missing something here.



Please point out where my brain isn't functioning!

stigant
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You're missing one crucial piece of info...


More specifically:


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TheEdge
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Arr... I see the decoy potions, and look for the clever uses before the more straightforward ones. Now to figure out the rest of this room... cheers Stigant.

TheEdge
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Hmm, I still can't get this one. I place the decoy on the spot that the bottom right eye is on (after it's moved, of course). When I've cleared most of the eyes out of the way, I end up with 3 eyes stuck around the decoy that I can't draw away, and a load gathered around the bottom savepoint, so that I can go onto it. What's the trick I'm missing this time?

Damn, level 18 is hard.

stigant
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I'm not sure, without seeing exactly what you're doing, but it sounds like you need to


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TheEdge
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File: JtRH Eighteenth Level 1N.demo (4.6 KB)
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I see what you mean, but I can't seem to both activate all the eyes, and not get any stuck on the decoy. Then there's the problem of all the eyes building up near the save point. This room's really doing my nut... give me KDD level 8 7S any day!

stigant
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eyes building up near the save point.

Yeah, I remember that being a problem too. However, is the problem that there are a lot of eyes or


I'll take a look at your demo when I get home. I haven't activated my caravel.net account on my work machine yet.

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schep
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TheEdge wrote:
I can't seem to both activate all the eyes, and not get any stuck on the decoy.

Yes, in the demo you posted, one eyeball in the southeast part is still asleep, and even without all the other eyes you would have no good way of waking it or getting to it. That could be a good first thing to concentrate on.

Then there's the problem of all the eyes building up near the save point.

TheEdge
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Aha, bingo. That's the trick to it. Quite a clever room this one... much like the rest of level 18. Level 19 seems far less hard by comparison.

Thanks for your help Schep, and Stigant. Much appreciated.

Chalks
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huh. I didn't know that about decoys.

/me learned something.

gyrell583
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Huh! this room is real hard! got only one passage in here and that passage is guarded by sleeping eyes that when I stepped in the mimic I'm killed in the process.
And what's the use of that orb in the north that when I hit it I will be stuck and cant get out to go to the 2nd mimic.help is much appreciated here . thanks

md5i
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gyrell583 wrote:
Huh! this room is real hard! got only one passage in here and that passage is guarded by sleeping eyes that when I stepped in the mimic I'm killed in the process.
And what's the use of that orb in the north that when I hit it I will be stuck and cant get out to go to the 2nd mimic.help is much appreciated here . thanks

This reply gives away a lot of hints. Be sure only to open up the ones you need to use.

gyrell583
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Thanks you sir! Now I see! although I think I'm having a lot of trouble in all the rooms in this level.

md5i
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wiseoldman wrote:
I seem to be really stuck here (see graphic). I can't get to the decoy at the first bend in the trail as two eyes are guarding it. What should I do?

Check in my reply two posts above. If that doesn't help enough, I can give the following much more spoiler-like hint:


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Oneiromancer
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So you need to enter the room from the upper left to solve it. So you have to solve the room North of this one first. If you've already solved it, you should still be able to get to that entrance.

Game on,

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TripleM
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Well,

wiseoldman
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TripleM wrote:
Well,

Click here to view the secret text

×As you said, you need to awaken that eye, so you must put the decoy somewhere in its line of sight.

Click here to view the secret text

×You also need to put it in the line of sight of that other evil eye pointing southeast.. which leaves only one square.

Click here to view the secret text

×Yes, it is possible to put it in that square. Try it, then figure out how to get that top eye moving where you want it.

Well, I am a paying member now so I can see the graphics in the posts. Unfortunately, those don't help. I am able to move the #3 eye but finding the right square to place the decoy for #1 and #2 escapes me. There doesn't seem to be one square where a decoy and activate both of these eyes. Suggestions would be appreciated

michthro
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There is a square where both eyes can be activated.

wiseoldman
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Thanks .. didn't think of that ... but then I am stuck at the last checkpoint with the eye at (17,21) and eyes on either side. I guess there must be a way to remove that eye but so far I have not found it.

P.S. I did remove several of my previous messages as they were redundant.

Oneiromancer
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wiseoldman wrote:
Thanks .. didn't think of that ... but then I am stuck at the last checkpoint with the eye at (17,21) and eyes on either side. I guess there must be a way to remove that eye but so far I have not found it.

Just like the rest of the room, it's not a matter of removing the eye, it's a matter of planning far ahead so as not to be stuck in that situation in the first place.

Game on,

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wiseoldman
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Nasty, nasty room

Now I know I am too impatient to figure that one out ... too many eyes to remember which one is awake and which one is not and which one not to wake and which ones to wake and which one has to be where at what time in order to be someplace else later on

Sooooo ... on to 19 and hopefully I won't have to come here as often as in 18.

Thank you ....

skip
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I am having a bad time with this room. No matter what I do I end up with one of the SE eyes above the decoy and then I cannot kill it.

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skip wrote:
I am having a bad time with this room. No matter what I do I end up with one of the SE eyes above the decoy and then I cannot kill it.

do you reckon you could point out which eye exactly you cannot kill?(use the Insert DROD Room image above the smilies)

skip
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After I move this one, it and sometimes others go north and there is no way to get to them to kill them after I place the decoy. Thank you for ANY help.

NiroZ
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Well in that case

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schep
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skip wrote:
This is a demo of where I am now.

No, that seems to be a copy of TheEdge's demo from way up in the thread.

Anyway, if your problem is still the eye you labeled, try to make sure

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skip
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I must have missed that one. This is mine from today.
Anyway, I need help knowing what to do now. Thanks

schep
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Still looks the same to me. You're pushing Export from the F6 screen, right?

skip
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Yes F6. export.
I cannot see Edge's because it comes up for me as Media Player.
I will try again.

skip
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File: JtRH Eighteenth Level 1N.demo (5.1 KB)
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This is a new demo of where I am. The problem is that if I start moving north, the eye moves north and then is trapped by the decoy. I may just need a victory demo from someone-thanks.