jokokoe
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I need the soldiers to kill the 3 left eyes. For that I need to build ice on water using puffs so the soldiers can cross.
If I walk on ice it will melt but that is not the case for soldiers.
If briar grows over water and there is puff it will create ice.


With those information I'm still unable to understand how I'm supposed to finish the room. Am i missing something or it is just a matter of manipulating correctly the puffs ?


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Dragon Fogel
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I'm unclear on what exactly you're having trouble with. It sounds like you understand the room just fine.

kikuchiyo
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Indeed, you have all the puzzle pieces. One small hint:

jokokoe
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I'll try to be more specific : Let's say I'd like one of the soldier to kill the north eye.


I see two approach 1) create ice at (6,10) and (4,11) so the soldier takes the north passage. 2) Create ice in the middle passage then at (4,14) and (4,12).

I think I have some trouble for the creation of the ice in the column 4.
If I don't use the briar it means that I need Beethro to go to the west part of the room which involves creating ice 3 times , 2 times for back and forth and a last time for the soldier.
If I use the briar I still need to create some ice back and forth to destroy the roots with the pickaxe.
Not to mention the fact that it is really hard to get the puff where you want as it can be attracted by the soldiers or destroyed by the hot tiles in front of the eyes ...


I just don't see how it is possible to beat the room

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Dragon Fogel
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It's not a problem if they're drawn to the soldiers unless they're over the pits. If that happens anywhere else, you just push the puffs, that's why there's a staff.

As for the hot tiles, if there's briar in the way the puffs will run into it, which gets your work done for you.

Also, you can push puffs into other puffs to make ice.

kikuchiyo
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If I use the briar I still need to create some ice back and forth to destroy the roots with the pickaxe.

This is false, check what the pressure plates do. If you use the briar well, Beethro never has to step on any ice himself.

More specific hints if you need them:

jokokoe
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Now I see where my mistake was. I was thinking that I had to let the briar grow on puffs to make ice while it was the exact opposite : push the puffs on the briar roots ... thanks !

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