Announcement: Be excellent to each other.


Caravel Forum : DROD RPG Boards : RPG Bugs : Roach Queen only lays eggs from first fight in a turn
New Topic New Poll Post Reply
Poster Message
kieranmillar
Level: Smitemaster
Rank Points: 2273
Registered: 07-11-2014
IP: Logged

File: BUG REPORTEgg Laying.drh (933 bytes)
Downloaded 1 times.
License: Public Domain
icon Roach Queen only lays eggs from first fight in a turn (+2)  
Roach Queen text says it lays an egg when a monster is fought, but if you fight multiple monsters in one turn (because of either a mimic or moving enemy, or both), then it only lays a single egg.

See attached example hold. Start on the player start square and move SE.

(This example hold has also showcased another strange bug, when the custom monster fights the player, the game incorrctly shows an "ATK too low" warning message, despite your ATK not being too low.)
11-07-2020 at 05:17 PM
View Profile Send Private Message to User Show all user's posts High Scores This architect's holds Quote Reply
mauvebutterfly
Level: Smitemaster
Rank Points: 546
Registered: 05-03-2015
IP: Logged
icon Re: Roach Queen only lays eggs from first fight in a turn (0)  
Is this really a bug though? It kind of makes sense that the queen would only lay a single egg in a turn.

How about briar? Does it grow twice in one turn or only once in these circumstances?

____________________________
106th Skywatcher
11-08-2020 at 02:13 AM
View Profile Send Private Message to User Show all user's posts High Scores This architect's holds Quote Reply
Xindaris
Level: Smitemaster
Avatar
Rank Points: 1017
Registered: 06-13-2015
IP: Logged
icon Re: Roach Queen only lays eggs from first fight in a turn (0)  
I think I would also interpret "when a monster is fought" to mean "if within a given turn a monster is fought, the queen will lay one egg during that turn too". If it said "lays an egg for every monster fought" or something, that'd be different.

____________________________
109th Skywatcher

Here are some links to Things!
Click here to view the secret text


[Last edited by Xindaris at 11-08-2020 05:59 AM]
11-08-2020 at 05:58 AM
View Profile Send Private Message to User Show all user's posts High Scores This architect's holds Quote Reply
kieranmillar
Level: Smitemaster
Rank Points: 2273
Registered: 07-11-2014
IP: Logged
icon Re: Roach Queen only lays eggs from first fight in a turn (0)  
mauvebutterfly wrote:
How about briar? Does it grow twice in one turn or only once in these circumstances?
Briar will grow multiple times in one turn if you fight multiple monsters in one turn.
11-08-2020 at 09:08 AM
View Profile Send Private Message to User Show all user's posts High Scores This architect's holds Quote Reply
mrimer
Level: Legendary Smitemaster
Avatar
Rank Points: 4729
Registered: 02-04-2003
IP: Logged
icon Re: Roach Queen only lays eggs from first fight in a turn (+2)  
I agree the current behavior is working as designed (fwiw).
But...
kieranmillar wrote:
mauvebutterfly wrote:
How about briar? Does it grow twice in one turn or only once in these circumstances?
Briar will grow multiple times in one turn if you fight multiple monsters in one turn.
Dang...we are not flawlessly consistent.

Okay...seems like we might want to change some logic, but I'm not sure which way we want to change things. Kieran, it sounds like you'd prefer to have the queen lay one egg per enemy engaged.
Let's also consider what holds we'd break by changing either way. Can you provide insight here?

____________________________
Gandalf? Yes... That's what they used to call me.
Gandalf the Grey. That was my name.
I am Gandalf the White.
And I come back to you now at the turn of the tide.
11-10-2020 at 12:11 AM
View Profile Send Private Message to User Send Email to User Show all user's posts High Scores This architect's holds Quote Reply
kieranmillar
Level: Smitemaster
Rank Points: 2273
Registered: 07-11-2014
IP: Logged
icon Re: Roach Queen only lays eggs from first fight in a turn (+1)  
It's OK to rule this as only spawning once per turn if you want to. This is a very niche behaviour, and I believe if you changed it then it wouldn't impact any published holds. Having multiple fights happen per turn is not something you see very often in published holds because mimics and moving monsters are both rare, and I can't think of a single instance that also has Queens in the room.

So feel free to change this or not. It's your call. I just thought I'd make a thread for it just in case.
11-10-2020 at 10:06 PM
View Profile Send Private Message to User Show all user's posts High Scores This architect's holds Quote Reply
mrimer
Level: Legendary Smitemaster
Avatar
Rank Points: 4729
Registered: 02-04-2003
IP: Logged
icon Re: Roach Queen only lays eggs from first fight in a turn (0)  
'k, makes sense.

I'm fine with leaving as-is too.

____________________________
Gandalf? Yes... That's what they used to call me.
Gandalf the Grey. That was my name.
I am Gandalf the White.
And I come back to you now at the turn of the tide.
11-10-2020 at 11:03 PM
View Profile Send Private Message to User Send Email to User Show all user's posts High Scores This architect's holds Quote Reply
New Topic New Poll Post Reply
Caravel Forum : DROD RPG Boards : RPG Bugs : Roach Queen only lays eggs from first fight in a turn
Surf To:


Forum Rules:
Can I post a new topic? No
Can I reply? No
Can I read? Yes
HTML Enabled? No
UBBC Enabled? Yes
Words Filter Enable? No

Contact Us | CaravelGames.com

Powered by: tForum tForumHacks Edition b0.98.8
Originally created by Toan Huynh (Copyright © 2000)
Enhanced by the tForumHacks team and the Caravel team.