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This is appearing on the prologue for TSS's first room, since I'm both lazy, and think this actually would fit for this.

Okay, I am starting to make progress in TSS, but I am EXTREMELY self-conscious about getting the "good ending" of the game, since I know this game has one. The problem is, what pre-requisites are there?

Here's what I know, in spoilers in case some newbie stumbles upon it:
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There's no guide I can find that compiles every requirement, so I'm stuck asking here.

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Everything you need to get the good ending is available to be found once the "camp" location (the "please take me to the endgame now" location) is available. Some areas you need to go to may not be on your map yet, you may have to take a different exit from some certain areas in order to put them on the map, at least as far as I can recall. Also if I'm not mistaken
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You'll know for sure you're on your way to the good ending when
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Nothing in TSS is "missable". At some point you'll be able to go back to anything you've overlooked or skipped.

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Well, I do seem to recall a few secret rooms being in levels you only encounter once and must restore to get if you didn't do them the first time. But those rooms aren't involved with the "completion stuff" you have to collect all in the same save, like the stuff for the good ending and the bonus level things.

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08-05-2017 at 02:17 AM
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Now that I'm making some more additional strides, I did think of something else; do I necessarily have to...

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Exactly one secret room is required for the good ending; all others are only progress towards mastery.

That one secret room...
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11-13-2017 at 01:21 AM
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I'm officially at Chapter 8 via the Security Gates, yet I still lack knowledge on exactly how to get the "good" ending... When do I...

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Next chapter.

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11-13-2017 at 02:04 PM
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Okay, I'm getting concerned. I'm partway through TWT, but no full world map yet; not to mention, seemingly no way to ask any hard questions, and the H&S listed levels only lists some few more levels before the end. Am I doing a wrong?

EDIT: Yes I am, just got it. Though, now I wonder...

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Things really start to open up after you finish Teaming with Tendry. After some exposition you get access to the full map and a bunch of "optional" areas.

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Just to be clear: you don't need to worry too much about qualifying for the good ending right away.

First: you will get a rather obvious prompt before starting the ending sequence. There is a checkpoint near the place this happens, allowing for easy restoring to go back and explore. Even if you don't hit the checkpoint, you can just restore to the start of this level. (The checkpoint is useful for keeping track of your progress on your main save if you go back for the missable secret rooms, though.)

Second: the actual final level has a shortcut to the end behind a Hold Complete wall. So if you beat it once, you don't have to go through it again to see the changed ending.
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As for the question of which optional levels are needed for the good ending:
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Question about the RCS stamps: I only seem to have access to 3, and I'm as far as starting Ore Refinery. 2 I can get ASAP (the one dagger level and HerW--the Frosted Wood level just gives a rooted hub keycard which I don't know what it does), and one is in HestW, which I got after clearing HerW (and I don't have that one yet.)

Do I get more RCS stamps just by the levels I unlock by clearing the other optional levels, or am I expected to clear the required levels to unlock optional levels with RCS stamps?

(Also, what does that Rooted Hub keycard do?)

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11-23-2017 at 09:13 PM
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Some of the RCS stamps are in secret rooms. Unlike the Hard Questions, there's no in-game indicator of where these are, you just have to find them.

The others are rewards for solving the optional levels that are not related to getting the good ending.

As for the Rooted Hub keycard...
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11-23-2017 at 11:03 PM
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Some of the RCS stamps are in secret rooms. Unlike the Hard Questions, there's no in-game indicator of where these are, you just have to find them.

The others are rewards for solving the optional levels that are not related to getting the good ending.

As for the Rooted Hub keycard...
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Oh, dear... I am aware completing the hold gives a percentile, and you can see how many secrets you have in a certain level, but that can only help so much in tracking down the RCS stamps in secret rooms, in a SEA of other secret rooms. A few pointers I might ask:

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Also, I tried that, and he didn't accept. Do I need both Rooted Hub keycards?

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There are two doors in Rooted Hub that lead to bonus levels, you need a keycard for each.
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One eternity in OR later, and I got easily the best laugh of today; it'll be hard to top that plate. Someone in chat helped with OHV, but for the confused people in the crowd, here's what you gotta do there.

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Is there any reason Seeding Grounds has question marks over it, though?

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Camwoodstock wrote: Is there any reason Seeding Grounds has question marks over it, though?

Yes; I answered this in a post above:

Three locations are indicated with question marks. Two of them indicate optional levels, the third indicates a secret room in a previous level.

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Yeah, you need

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Camwoodstock wrote: Is there any reason Seeding Grounds has question marks over it, though?

Yes; I answered this in a post above:

Three locations are indicated with question marks. Two of them indicate optional levels, the third indicates a secret room in a previous level.


Weird... My map has only two areas with question marks. One for that explosives area, and of course the one in seeding grounds. I had one in rooted hub that vanished upon the explosives one being found. This, of course, does make me wonder where a THIRD set of question marks is.

Based on the statement you said, I can rule out the explosives area as being where a Very Hard Question is; implying there's no overlap, it couldn't contain one (though if there is overlap, then it's practically my best shot). Seeding Grounds SEEMS to be the best option, but I've seen just about every secret room, and yet, no banana (not even a metaphorical one, it's mostly puzzles from what I found, though I do see that RCS stamp).

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Yeah, you need

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That... kind of concerns me? I get the feeling that no, I'm not screwed since I can just use that one stray truth vessel at OHV, tell him my even harder question, and I'll be fine. But if that's not the case, then I'd be completely boned.

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You can change the question as many times as you want. It doesn't matter if you don't give them a hard enough question initially.

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You can change the question as many times as you want. It doesn't matter if you don't give them a hard enough question initially.

Oh, phew!

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Camwoodstock wrote: Weird... My map has only two areas with question marks.

They disappear if you already have the Hard Questions, and since you found "How wide is the Eighth?" you must have already gotten the one from
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So, two to go.

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Based on the statement you said, I can rule out the explosives area as being where a Very Hard Question is

Not sure what you mean here. In case my comment was too abbreviated, what I meant was: There are three locations indicated with question marks, and these are where the Hard Questions are (one in a secret room, the other two as rewards for solving the levels). So the two you haven't gotten yet are Seeding Grounds and Explosives Storage.

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Seeding Grounds SEEMS to be the best option, but I've seen just about every secret room

Note that there's a feature of that level in particular that helps you hunt for secrets ;)

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I've gotten the hardest question, and I'm at Chapter 11. Are the bonus levels marked in green required for the good ending? I'd assume yes.

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That's right. Complete those levels and go back to Lonely Campsite and you get the good ending after clearing the final level (which you can skip if you've completed the hold before).
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