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RankEntryAverageStandard Deviation
1Vertical Preference8.71.0049875621121
1"Clones are only targets if selected"8.71.1
3Where monsters live and scurry underfoot8.31.7349351572897
4Ortho squares8.21.6613247725836
5The Path Not Taken82.2803508501983
5Pit Images82.0976176963403
7A Halph Haiku7.62.0099751242242
7The Unkillable Snake7.62.0099751242242
9A Haiku7.51.802775637732
10Spider6.42.8
A Halph Haiku
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Average Vote 7.6
Standard Deviation 2.0099751242242

A Haiku
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Average Vote 7.5
Standard Deviation 1.802775637732

Vertical Preference
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Average Vote 8.7
Standard Deviation 1.0049875621121

Spider
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Average Vote 6.4
Standard Deviation 2.8

Ortho squares
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Average Vote 8.2
Standard Deviation 1.6613247725836

The Path Not Taken
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Average Vote 8
Standard Deviation 2.2803508501983

Where monsters live and scurry underfoot
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Average Vote 8.3
Standard Deviation 1.7349351572897

Pit Images
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Average Vote 8
Standard Deviation 2.0976176963403

"Clones are only targets if selected"
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Average Vote 8.7
Standard Deviation 1.1

The Unkillable Snake
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Average Vote 7.6
Standard Deviation 2.0099751242242
Total Votes 11 100%
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This is the voting topic for DROD is Odd, our May contest.

As usual, rate the quality of each entry individually, and authors are allowed (indeed encouraged) to vote 10 for their own entries.

Entries are listed in a randomly selected order. If no title was provided, I used the first line (incipit) as the title, in long-standing poetic tradition.

#1 A Halph Haiku

Halph, Lesson the first:
Bump a door, he'll open it.
Required: Don't kill Halph.

#2 A Haiku

The basic, cute roach
Moves towards people, not with spite
But to give warm hugs.

#3 Vertical Preference

to the tune of "Waltzing Matilda"

Once a jolly roachling sauntered through a dungeon room,
When he encountered a wall in his way,
And he sang as he stood there, trying to make up his mind,
"Which way shall I go round this wall today?"

Vertical preference, vertical preference,
North over east and south over west,
Oh, if you're a roachling trying to make up your mind,
Just let V.P. tell you which way is best!


Along came a Seep, and spoke out from within the wall,
"Why are you pondering for so long today?
We both know what you'll decide, for you're such a boring creature,
And you always go in the same boring way!"

Up strode the Delver, Really Big Sword in his hand;
Along came his mimics, one two and three,
And that poor little roach knew he'd have to make his mind up fast,
Or else he Vonnifa's dinner would be.

East went the roach, and stepped straight onto a firetrap;
The moral of this story is now plain to see.
Oh, if you're a delver, it's bad to be predictable,
But if you're a roach, stick to good old V.P.!

#4 Spider

スパイダー
は隠されているが動い
ている

#5 Ortho squares

[Chorus]
Ortho squares, ortho squares, they
Don't allow to move diagonally and
Ortho squares, ortho squares, they're
Called
Ortho squares, ortho squares, 'cause they
Only allow to move orthogonally, those
Ortho squares, ortho squares, yes,
That's what they're called


[Verse 1]
A mesh of blue below you indicates there are certain paths you cannot take
The moves that change both _X and _Y are those you cannot make
Now cardinal directions are the only available actions
So watch out when the trapdoors are falling or you might just run out of connections!
And suddenly you'll have to care about things like parity
Or taxicab geometry, oh Jeebus, this is scarin' me!
But in the end I know that even without a maths degree
You'll master them with certainty if you just go and sing along with me:

[Chorus]

[Verse 2]
And brains, as stupid as they are, don't recognize the markings on the ground
So they don't even try to lead the roaches that they command around 'em
Leave 'em grounded in a state of perpetual motion
Like the waves upon the Ocean, going down and up and down and up and down!
What was that sound? Was it the sigh of a delver trying their best to pass by,
Like in a past life when they were the chain of a gentryii carelessly dragged behind?
Or a fegundo that is longing to explode but sticks around
Just pounding their head against a wall? Whatever, sing it with me now:

[Chorus]

#6 The Path Not Taken

Two paths diverged in a purple room
Since an obstacle blocked my path
And though one way spelled Beethro's doom
I went instead where hot tiles loom
And soon heard Beethro's laugh

Or through a field I would set forth
Where blue diamonds equally lay
And while this column has no worth
I wandered only south or north
There was no other way

No matter where I ever try
Westward once or eastward sence
Two paths diverge in a room, and I
I take the one dictated by
My vertical preference

#7 Where monsters live and scurry underfoot

Where monsters live and scurry underfoot
A delver goes to work without a word
And soon arrives to give them all the boot
Through cunning and a really big-size sword

Or with a staff a queen he gives a shove
With eyes arrested on his pocket watch
For giving her a timely forceful move
Forbids the roachling eggs a chance to hatch

A blob of tarstuff can be rather tough
With colours signifying to him how
A path can be eviscerated through
A shifting mass he can't allow to grow

When cleaning out a dungeon things that live
Cannot contractually be left alive

#8 Pit Images

There are some things in this plane and land
Few of them are awesome, fewer are grande
But there is one thing that keeps me up in the night
So rare and amazing, it's just quite a sight

(Chorus)
Pit Images
Pit Images
The best in this world
Pit Images
Pit Images
Just look and get whirled
Pit Images
Pit Images
So rare here they are
Pit Images
Pit Images
If you fall you'll get scar


I know you are thinking I am just a mad bard
But the truth is I am secretly a guard
I also work sometimes for the DAA
And I place pit images in less than a day

(Chorus)

With that being said I now have to go
My job has just called me, and as you might know
I have to place some pits in a day
And give them their images and avoid fray

(Chorus)

#9 "Clones are only targets if selected"

Clones are only targets if selected;
Timeclones are targets when unbrained.
Mimics are never targets, they're rejected;
Decoys are always targets if in range.

#10 The Unkillable Snake

Beethro goes down the stairs,
looks around, and then declares,
"I can't kill that snake
without a good brake
to stop it in its square."

With no helpers around
Beethro turns aside and frowns
Spotting a clone potion
He considers the notion
but isn't sure how that sounds.

A helpful steel sword
could strike along in full accord
But that dastardly worm
has skin far too firm
to make any progress forward.

After some further review
Beethro looks over, head askew.
"I'm not sure this'll fly,
But I'll give it a try,
'cause it's the only thing left to do."

With a well-timed swoop,
Beethro enters the coop.
He closes his eyes,
and to his surprise,
He finds himself out of the loop.

"Hmm, I understand it -
It's just as I had planned it!"
By making the switch,
The snake stopped in a hitch,
For the butt it was gnawing was granite.

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disoriented wrote:
For the lazy:


*triggered by machine translations as someone proficient in Japanese*

Okay, so the actual translation is more like this:
Spiders
they're hidden and yet
moving


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Wait, so now do we vote on the translation or on the aesthetic appeal of the series of moon language squiggles?

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Dischorran wrote:
Wait, so now do we vote on the translation or on the aesthetic appeal of the series of moon language squiggles?

Maybe we should vote with an UI of the same language, like this:

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Obligatory reminder that there are less than 24 hours left to vote for this. Get your votes in soon!
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I actually have comments for this contest. Woooo! To be revealed when the poll closes:

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And we have a result! :thumbsup

First place is a tie between my "Vertical Preference" and Xindaris' "Targets". Xindaris wins 100 ranks points and a pick from the Prize Pile.

mauvebutterfly wins 50 points for the second-placed "Where monsters live and scurry underfoot".

Lucky Luc wins 25 rank points for the third-placed "Ortho squares".

There are no first-time or eight-timer entries for this contest.

Other entrants:

4th (tied): "The Path Not Taken" by mauvebutterfly and "Pit Images" by skell
5th (tied): "A Halph Haiku" by IQubic and "The Unkillable Snake" by Chaco
6th: "A Haiku" by Crimson Moon
7th: "Spider" by skell

Thanks to everyone who participated! :D

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I prefer Xindaris' voting method to my own; I just read the poems to myself out loud and gave higher marks to the ones that I liked the rhyme or meter of. Congrats to Xindaris for nailing this contest, both with his entry and with his voting criteria. Congrats to Nuntar too for his winning entry, and for making me look up a song that I had never heard before.

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I'm also surprised by the number of people here with some kind of knowledge of Japanese. I was intending to break out the study materials to figure out what grammar was being used in the Spider haiku, but then a reasonable translation was provided so that I didn't have to.

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Well, that went a lot better than I expected, especially since I thought the average quality was pretty high this time. Congrats to the winners! Well done!

I didn't plan to enter this contest originally, since writing prose in German and then doing my best to translate it is one thing, but poetry is another. But then I was messing around with my guitar and quickly came up with this super silly chorus and first part of the second verse, so I just had to continue.

And then I thought trying to come up with music for the other "singable" lyrics (i. e. not haikus) might be fun, too. So here you go!

Keep in mind, however, that:
1. I am not a great singer.
2. I used my phone microphone for recording, and couldn't be bothered to do any editing.
3. I think I messed up the lyrics sometimes, or slightly altered them to make them fit the tune better. Sorry about that.
4. Most of these songs were recorded on my secondary guitar, which tends to be out of tune a bit.
5. These are obviously just my ideas about how those songs might go. Please don't be mad if the tune I thought of doesn't fit the song you had in your head when writing the lyrics. If you don't want your song to be online for whatever reason, I'll gladly remove it.

Finally, these are just main vocals + guitar demo recordings (plus a single kazoo part). I've also attached some comments how I would imagine slightly more elaborate versions of these songs.

So yeah, hope you enjoy :)

EDIT: Hm, can't seem to upload it to the forum, so here's a Dropbox link instead.

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Congratulations to all the other winners! I did like pretty much all the poems, I should mention, which is maybe part of why I came up with such specific criteria to judge by.


Lucky Luc, your songs are wonderful, and honestly the sung version of Ortho Squares makes it much more clear how it's supposed to work; I'd be inclined to say it's "more of a song than a poem" in some sense. Trying to read it as a poem without the context the sung version gives feels awkward and difficult to pick up the meter, but the fast-paced flowing 'rap' and particular meter of the singing in the chorus makes it sound great.

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Now that everyone knows which entries were mine...

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It was my first and only attempt, never again.

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Okay, seriously, what's with contest coordinators not only entering, but counting their own wins?

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Dischorran wrote:
Okay, seriously, what's with contest coordinators not only entering, but counting their own wins?
I'd be really surprised if it was the first time the contest author participated in their own contest.

I'd be maybe a little less surprised if they never scored a good place.

Frankly I don't think it's a big deal. I don't think it's a deal at all, even small. I know Nuntar has expressed in chat that he did not intend on cashing in on the reward so the dealness of this situation goes even lower, he even hinted it in the post: Xindaris wins 100 ranks points and a pick from the Prize Pile.

But ultimately if the participants disagree with me, or the community thinks we should have an explicit rule forbidding contest authors from taking part in their own contests it's only fair to establish such a rule. It's only my personal opinion that it's not an issue (especially in the context of our small community).

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skell wrote:
Now that everyone knows which entries were mine...

It was my first and only attempt, never again.

What, no recital of your other poem?

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