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Not sure of the best way to get a roach to 30,3.

(By the way, clicking on that square highlights the square to its northwest. But it's not clear if the door is affected, the arrow, or both. I consider this a bug since the player is supposed to be able to see what every orb and plate does from the outset without having to experiment. Arrows should be highlighted differently from doors in this manner. If you agree, please add your voice here so this gets fixed.)

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In response to the tiny text, if there's door and arrow on the same spot the door is always the thing that's affected thanks to that being the game's rules, so that's generally perfectly clear.

For your actual question about the room, what have you tried so far? There are multiple steps to the intended solution and I don't know which one to hint at.

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03-31-2017 at 02:10 PM
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What I ended up doing was:

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This does not seem to be either the intended solution or the unintended solution found during testing, but it works.
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Dragon Fogel's solution is effectively the same as the other unintended solution; it's all about
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For the intended solution, you should
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icon Re: new hold : new hold lvl : 1 South, 1 East (0)  
I managed to get the unintended solution after peeking here. However, the challenge didn't register for some reason...

Attached is a demo (forgive the mess, this is far from optimized).

Xindaris' hint wasn't enough for me to figure out the intended solution.
05-10-2017 at 08:54 PM
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It looks like I mis-scripted the challenge. It won't activate correctly if the explosion is from a fuse, but it will if you blow up the keg using a sword. This is because of turn processing nonsense that I didn't consider when I was making the challenge, because at that time it didn't occur to me that a fuse-based explosion could even achieve it. Sorry.

Was the hint in the "second option" of the scroll in the box of green doors any help? It basically says what to do after my hint above.

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05-11-2017 at 04:01 AM
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Guess I worked a bit harder for that challenge than I had to!

A soft reset (night's sleep) allowed me to also got the intended solution, which is quite elegant.

Thanks!
05-11-2017 at 05:49 AM
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