Camwoodstock
Level: Master Delver

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Yeah, the challenge is "clear the room without coming in from another entrance." As in, clear it when you first enter it, or first start the level.



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Camwoodstock
Level: Master Delver

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...Anybody? Anybody able to give any help with the challenge?

Perhaps a demo?

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Camwoodstock
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Camwoodstock wrote:
...Anybody? Anybody able to give any help with the challenge?

Perhaps a demo?

...Please. The other threads for KDD1.0 said nothing about the challenge.

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Dragon Fogel
Level: Smitemaster
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Is any particular part of the room giving you trouble?

Fundamentally all you have to do here is



and I don't remember anything in particular that gets much harder if you don't leave the room first.

Beckett
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I'm having so much trouble with this room that I'm starting to question if there's some aspect of roach behavior that I don't properly understand.

Below is a screenshot of the position I'm in. I watched a YouTube video where a player starts in almost the exact same position and he somehow shifts the group of roaches south while still keeping 4 in the left column and 6 in the right column. But when I try to do that, as soon as I step south at least one of the roaches switches from the left column to the right column. I don't understand how it is possible.

Dragon Fogel
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What's giving you trouble is movement order.

Each monster moves at a different point in the turn relative to other monsters. Because of this, only looking at the position won't tell you how they move. Instead, one roach moves before another roach, possibly blocking the move that second roach wanted to make. You can check move order by right-clicking on a monster; there's a number next to its name indicating when it moves relative to other monsters. The lower the number, the sooner it moves.

However, in this particular room you're probably better off just messing around until something works rather than dealing with the finer points of movement order. I'm just explaining the concept to clarify what's going wrong.