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Thanks, but I cannot escape the gel babies when moving from the potion area.

What can be done about that?

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11-03-2015 at 04:37 AM
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I can't even get past the first tar blob.

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11-11-2015 at 05:24 AM
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you need to time your movement so that a tar baby is killed by the spike trap.
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That isn't really the root of my problem. I've suspected the spike trap is there for a reason, but knowing that for sure doesn't really help when my main issue is maneuvering.

Which side do I break the tar on? Where am I trying to lure the babies so that killing one on the spike trap is useful? These are the things I'm having trouble with.
11-11-2015 at 06:08 PM
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Okay, found a way past. It doesn't actually involve killing a baby on a spike trap.

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Now my problem is getting enough babies.

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11-11-2015 at 06:31 PM
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...and I just figured out how to solve that, but to do that I can't take a decoy potion until I'm past the first blob. Which means I'm right back where I started.
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you don't use the decoy potion until you've made it past the first tar blob. Cut the tar on the left, then go around the potions clockwise. 2 of them will follow behind you, and the other will be killed by the spike trap.
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I need more details than that. I have already made several attempts that do exactly what you describe but leave me unable to escape without killing a second baby.

Here is what usually happens:

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11-11-2015 at 10:35 PM
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When I get home I can post a demo of my best attempt so far, which I think gets past the part giving you trouble (using a decoy). I'm just stuck at the gel section. After placing a decoy in the gel I'm trapped in the western section.

The problem may be that I'm using a decoy too early.

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I figured out the gel, but I did it by killing off babies rather than trapping them because I still haven't worked out the first part.

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Now if I can just get this first part, I should be able to finish the room.
11-11-2015 at 11:16 PM
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Okay, I somehow stumbled on the right movement for the beginning, and from there I finished the room.

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Here's my progress so far. Suggestions welcome and appreciated. :~(:)

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Demo requested, here it is.

This may be tricky to follow because a lot of this will vary depending on movement order.
11-12-2015 at 04:53 AM
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