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icon The Second Sky : Mother of All Roaches : 3 North, 4 West (+1)  
Ok I saw the difference with the first room,
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but no the roaches wont stay...

How come?

EDIT: now they suddenly do :D

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I don't know what exactly forces the queen to become stuck. Either an explanation or a demo would be appreciated.

(I also noticed in the level 1 room that the roach queen sometimes just get stuck opposite the brain. If I figure that out, I can solve these rooms I guess...)
07-22-2014 at 12:43 AM
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Thanks.

I'm still curious though how exactly the roach queen (or instead, the roaches that block the roach queen) gets stuck.
07-22-2014 at 08:52 AM
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icon Re: The Second Sky : Mother of All Roaches : 3 North, 4 West (+1)  
I think the hold Advanced Concepts (or Advanced Concepts 2) goes into very helpful detail as to why the queen gets stuck :), but from what I can see, the moment the roach queen slides into its position, its pathmap is telling it to go in an orthogonal direction against the wall, depending where you and it are, and since it can't slide when moving orthogonally, it stays still.

Very genius application done here, even if it's probably done somewhere else before
07-22-2014 at 10:22 AM
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Little that has changed! Roach queen locked herself in the south-east corner.
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Little that has changed! Roach queen locked herself in the south-east corner.


Sadly there are unintended solutions for these rooms that do not require the brain. It was intended for the player to have to get the queen stuck i the space next to the brain with roaches blocking it from retreating.
08-03-2014 at 12:52 PM
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Well, I've read about such catch-up. But it is rather difficult due to attack on the counter roaches.
08-03-2014 at 07:08 PM
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Help please.I am really stuck .Does some body has a demo I could see?
Thks
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File: TSS Mother of All Roaches 3N4W Victory.demo (29.1 KB)
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icon Re: The Second Sky : Mother of All Roaches : 3 North, 4 West (0)  
Here's an inefficient demo. Also a hint
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icon Re: The Second Sky : Mother of All Roaches : 3 North, 4 West (0)  
Actually, the intended solution (we know from Larry's comments on the TSS beta forum) is
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Thank you very much
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