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bomber50 wrote:
I don't know if you've figured this out yet, but...
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I can pull this off, but it doesn't seem to give me the proper results. When I become visible again, my Roach Queens go from this:

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To this:
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What am I missing, here? I can't even trip the first plate, for crying out loud.

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02-19-2015 at 07:27 PM
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Same problem. They go from this:

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To this:

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Leaving the plate below untripped. It's almost like I need to do this:

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But can't maneuver the roaches down that far.

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No -- Dragon Fogel's diagram was correct, but only if you have the queens in the right order. You can tell what order they are by clicking on them.

So, how do you work out what the correct order is? Well, the easternmost queen will always go south. The second queen will go southeast if it can, but not if it's blocked by the eastern queen. So, given that those two start off horizontally adjacent, the eastern queen needs to move before the queen next to it in order to continue blocking her when it's her turn to move. Work from there....

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allaces14400 wrote:
Same problem. They go from this:

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To this:

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From the first arrangement you have secreted above, the next time the roaches move it should be because you regain visibility. From the pattern in your 2nd diagram, it looks like you may be driving them down while still invisible. Also, as Nuntar and others have stated above, make absolutely certain you have them ordered correctly.

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Here's the clue from the first page that showed not only the configuration, but where to put it and what the numbers should be.

http://forum.caravelgames.com/viewtopic.php?TopicID=37945&page=0#382789

If the queens are in that position, and right clicking on them gives you those numbers, you've got the position.

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Okay, I see what I did wrong. I had them numbered backwards.

And now I have a new problem:

When set up as specified, my Queens go from this:

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To this:

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Leaving me in the same position I was in previously, where the first plate isn't tripped and I can't progress further through the puzzle.

I have lined them up horizontally, and this works until the last pressure plate, where it obviously causes an issue. What am I missing here?

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That... that really shouldn't happen the first time they move.
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02-19-2015 at 11:22 PM
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Sorry, that was it. Geez. I need to get my attention to detail under control. *facepalm*

Thanks very much! Another room down, two more to go.

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Guys, I'm having much trouble with this room... I've read the hints but I'm not even able to place the roaches correctly at start. May I have a demo ? Thanks !!!

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Here you go.

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