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I am stuck here.

I need to activate the two pressure plates that kill seep, and then activate the third plate to free whoever activated them.

Entering from the south I can get both roaches on the seep-killing pressure plates, but then I die when I release them.

If I have a goblin, I can step on one seep-killing pressure plate and force the goblin onto the release plate. In this case I would survive (a plus). However, I can't herd both goblins across the bridge, and I can't force a roach onto a pressure plate if I enter from the north.

Is there an approach I'm missing, or do I just need to herd the goblins better?


06-27-2014 at 06:35 PM
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Got it! Thanks!
06-27-2014 at 10:44 PM
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I don't get it for my part.

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Pretty explicit hints down here:

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I don't see it.
Should I solve it by entering from the north, or from the south?
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This leaves me with two roaches, neither of which I am able to lead where I want...
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????
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See the hints above if you need more help.

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You can definitely lead two roaches where you want them...
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Oh I got that, my post wasn't clear enough.
What I meant was that I couldn't lead one of the two roaches up there, no matter which I picked!
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quote:
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Oh I got that, my post wasn't clear enough.
What I meant was that I couldn't lead one of the two roaches up there, no matter which I picked!
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OK, just to be sure:

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Yup, that's what I was missing. Thanks!
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I get the feeling that my problem is more based on execution than concept, but...

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edit: Phew, now that took longer than expected.

First goal:
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Second goal:
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From there it should be easier.



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Is the roach loop trick used in Seeding Grounds:1S3E used here?

EDIT: I think it is. I beat it with help form JoeShark.

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Dammit, I smell LarryMurk .... this puzzle didn't have the usual DROD satisfaction for me, because it is monster movement order dependent in a subtle way: explicit hints follow.

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I frown on such mechanisms being critical: -1 to the architect.

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icon Re: The Second Sky : Frozen Wood : 1 North, 2 East (+1)  
I really don't think criticizing the architect for this is right, since the room is 100% solvable regardless of which roach you use. It is a bit unfortunate that the move order is different. Here's a demo that demonstrates how to do it with a different order.

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10-09-2014 at 11:38 PM
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Wow, blorx, thanks. I stand corrected.

I tried that sequence myself, but couldn't get it to work.

I'll leave my post up so the architect (we don't yet know, officially, do we?) can experience double relish at having confounded the player in this way.

I'm hoping Caravel will publish the room architects in due course; maybe when mrimer returns .....

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Have they published the archs for each room in the other 4 games?

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Yes, all official hold authorship is buried in these forums.

I always have trouble finding these lists, but here's the one
for The City Beneath.

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Here's a comprehensive list of all the puzzle rooms in TCB and who created them.




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Sure, we can publish the level/puzzle architects for TSS at any time.

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Okay, cleared the room.

Is there any way to pass through the bombs and reach the SW checkpoint - irrelevant as it is?
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No. That's only used in Woodland Glade.
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