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So, despite being made of metal, Gentryii will still move onto oremites. The oremites will then ignore the Gentryii and its chain.

I would expect a Gentryii head or a chain segment to be destroyed if it entered an oremite square.

(But, what would happen if a head entered an oremite square, but the rest of the chain was on dry land? There's no other situation in-game yet where you see a chain without a Gentryii head.)

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Chaco wrote:
So, despite being made of metal, Gentryii will still move onto oremites. The oremites will then ignore the Gentryii and its chain.

I would expect a Gentryii head or a chain segment to be destroyed if it entered an oremite square.

(But, what would happen if a head entered an oremite square, but the rest of the chain was on dry land? There's no other situation in-game yet where you see a chain without a Gentryii head.)

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We actually do have an explanation for this, it just never made it into the game.

Sadly, it's not my awesome explanation for it. ._. But there's a good one, I'll let Mrimer take it.

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Banjooie wrote:
We actually do have an explanation for this, it just never made it into the game.

Sadly, it's not my awesome explanation for it. ._. But there's a good one, I'll let Mrimer take it.

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Chaco wrote:
(But, what would happen if a head entered an oremite square, but the rest of the chain was on dry land? There's no other situation in-game yet where you see a chain without a Gentryii head.)

Well, in EotA 1S3E you can break the chain and tail simply disappears. I understand why this happens if gentryii's head falls into a pit (it's obviously heavy and just drags the chain down), but if you break it in the middle... Maybe it can shed its tail like a lizard? But why doesn't it free itself from the wall? Gentryii behavior and abilities need to be further researched.

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Well, Mrimer hasn't given the /official/ lore explanation, but I will tell you that they are /not/, in fact, very tiny oremites.

Though I asked. Really nicely.

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Banjooie wrote:
I will tell you that they are /not/, in fact, very tiny oremites.

Huh? I don't understand what you mean. Did you mean to say "gentryii are not gigantic oremites"?

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Yes. I was very much hoping we would go with 'genetically modified oremites'. Sadly, yada yada yada REASONS we had to go with I think something along the lines of 'they're made of/plated with a metal oremites aren't interested in'.

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Banjooie wrote:
Yes. I was very much hoping we would go with 'genetically modified oremites'. Sadly, yada yada yada REASONS we had to go with I think something along the lines of 'they're made of/plated with a metal oremites aren't interested in'.

Whatever those reasons are, they can only be incorrect.

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Maybe they're made of silicon or some other metalloid? Or maybe passivated chromium or something like that. Sounds like the metal equivalent to spoiled food, or would you want to eat through an oxide layer first?

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I believe somewhere it mentioned them being chromed. So that's a possibility.

I'm looking at it this way... if they are made of oremite resistant metal, then why hasn't someone build a crushing trap to lure one in, to get a block of the metal to use for weapons? It could be that the metal that they're made of is too hard... it's just too brittle when made into weapons. That will be less of an issue for giant sphere than a blade. And very hard alloys might be enough to discourage oremites.

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Maybe they're literally made of greckles. Oremites don't eat greckles, as we found in DROD: RPG.

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I don't think the lore problem is explaining oremites not eating gentryii, that's easy, several good possibilities above. It's oremites not eating the chain that the Empire was using to restrain them, which is much less plausible to make out of something special.

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bwross wrote: I'm looking at it this way... if they are made of oremite resistant metal, then why hasn't someone build a crushing trap to lure one in, to get a block of the metal to use for weapons? It could be that the metal that they're made of is too hard... it's just too brittle when made into weapons. That will be less of an issue for giant sphere than a blade. And very hard alloys might be enough to discourage oremites.

Well, first off, gentryii are canonically limited to the level you found them in. Because the Empire thought they were dumb and refused to use them. So it wouldn't really come up.

Secondly, I'm not sure a crushing trap would work.

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If a crushing trap doesn't work, it's again because the Gentryii are too hard. It doesn't take a lot of knowledge to build a trap capable of crushing with more than enough force, so I'm sure they can manage that part... the issue would be in material strength.

Having them all trapped in one level because they're not being used are just more reasons for coming up for a way to reduce them to ingots for study.

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Clearly the key is to push one gentryii into another several hundered tiles in the space of a single turn using pushing weapons and mimics. This device, the gentryii accelerator, would probably produce the necessary force.

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