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I'm posting here purely to reiterate that this is an absolutely amazing puzzle, and you should on no account spoil yourself on it. I got the first two parts myself (although the second part took a lot longer than the first). I came here for a hint on the third, and ended up working that out myself as well. I'm very glad I did!

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It just sucks that the other rooms on this level depend on this, and this is the first room that people aren't really giving hints on. Does the third one also have a hint in another room?

For the record, I do not like this one.
07-04-2014 at 08:01 PM
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It just sucks that the other rooms on this level depend on this, and this is the first room that people aren't really giving hints on. Does the third one also have a hint in another room?

For the record, I do not like this one.


The 3rd is
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07-04-2014 at 08:04 PM
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Just for the record. You might as well enjoy this room while you can.

Spoiler on game structure (not this room):
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07-04-2014 at 08:34 PM
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The 3rd is
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But not exactly...oy, my head hurts.
07-04-2014 at 09:58 PM
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The best I've gotten is to the attached picture. I can get in and out, but can't get it back. Though this is the first time I've gotten back out.

EDIT: Oof, I got it. And no, I still don't like it.

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quote:
Fafnir wrote:
I'm posting here purely to reiterate that this is an absolutely amazing puzzle, and you should on no account spoil yourself on it. I got the first two parts myself (although the second part took a lot longer than the first). I came here for a hint on the third, and ended up working that out myself as well. I'm very glad I did!
I'm posting here purely to stress that, while the puzzle may or may not be amazing*, you should feel free to ask for hints if you're stuck. Because, seriously, this game is supposed to be fun, and if you're not having fun on the room, get hints and get past it. I did, and I don't think I particularly regret it at all.

*The puzzle was fine. Not particularly amazing, IMHO, but perfectly fine. And anyway, you can admire the puzzle construction just as much whether you solve it with hints or without.
07-06-2014 at 01:59 AM
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Sounds like you need a break then. Worked for me.

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O.M.G That is ingenious!

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07-11-2014 at 08:08 PM
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Sounds like you need a break then. Worked for me.

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O.M.G That is ingenious!


I got the second orb, and I loved it. However, I have been staring at my screen for almost an hour and can't see how to get third door to toggle in such a way that I can get in and out and still have the Lemming come back across the river. Can someone give me at least the coordinates of one mirror for the final trip across?

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That would be way too big of a hint. I will throw this out though:

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07-11-2014 at 08:50 PM
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That would be way too big of a hint. I will throw this out though:

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I had them at
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Which does what I want in one way, except that the Lemming crosses the plate for the second time way before I get back to the first door... other than that, I can't seem to find a way of rebounding it. Is my assumption correct that the Lemming
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If my assumption is incorrect, then I am completely stuck.

EDIT: sorry got the coordinates wrong. I fixed them

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That's close, but as you said you need more time.

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Got it! So very elegant! Thanks! Probably the best puzzle i've seen so far.

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I've solved both the first and third. <H+S help me now>

Edit ugg solved


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this post is just to thanks the player that with their hints help me a lot to solve this amazing puzzle
1 trap door
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2 middle orb
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3 right orb
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07-21-2014 at 06:37 AM
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I appreciated your very subtle hints, bwross. Thank you.
07-28-2014 at 06:09 AM
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My advice on the method for the second above applies to the third and first as well. Look at the four directions leading over the plate and work backwards (then forwards for the return). I actually rediscovered both of these looking for the solution to two.



I'm at a total loss for the second orb. I've gone back to play the beginning levels multiple times with no revelation of the hints that were eluded to. Have also tried "working backwards" but it seems there are multiple possibilities but none that are possible with the amount of mirrors I have. The other hints reference the lemmings chomp through anything, but there's nothing for him to chomp. Ugh..any gentle nudges to clue me in?
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In an earlier room
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Is that strange sandy isle in the center of the room important?

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I stared at this room for probably 1.5 hrs thinking about how to do 2nd orb. As soon as I read your hint, it took me literally 1 minute. Thank you. Now onto the 3rd and beyond...

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I am going to have to grovel here... I can't even do the trapdoor (well, I can drop it but end up trapped cos the lemming can't come back).

Can anyone take pity with a hint? (I'm ill in bed with a middle ear infection that means I can't stand up; my internet bandwidth has gone to under 100K (not unusual in the darkest midlands of the UK) which means web pages load when I'm lucky; and bbc iplayer is broken: my Dad was right, never grow old...) At least the cat is enjoying a warm bed all day. TSS has been getting me through the boredom for three days, but I'm really stuck and miserable now, as well as ill ...yet I can sort of see why people rave about this room!:smile I have read the hints, redone the level three times... brain is sick now/

I had lots of ideas, can drop the trapdoor in at least three ways, but always get stuck... need a hint.
thanks to anyone who will help - Mashie
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So, you need to find a path for the lemming that lets him push the raft, traverse the lowest pressure plate twice (separated by at least twelve turns) and come back. The lemming must end up moving west, which suggests that you should
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To get the lemming moving west in that row, he must face south and hit an obstacle he can't move in the row below. Does that tell you where to place both mirrors?

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So, you need to find a path for the lemming that lets him push the raft, traverse the lowest pressure plate twice (separated by at least twelve turns) and come back. The lemming must end up moving west, which suggests that you should
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To get the lemming moving west in that row, he must face south and hit an obstacle he can't move in the row below. Does that tell you where to place both mirrors?


thank you and bless you for being so quick! Done it in 10 seconds of reading this, just had to let go one wrong assumption! thank you so much :thumbsup

and completed the room in a further ten minutes - all that practice had to have had a purpose... thanks again - Mashie

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Can somebody give me demo? I'm really stuck :thumbsdown
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Here you go.
This demo shows how to complete the entire room. Do not watch it if you only wish for help on one of the first two parts of the puzzle.
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Thank you, again i overthinked this game ;-;.
PS You all were right this is really fun level :P
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The absolutely minimal hint for the second part (which I only got by reading through some of the stuff here; this is a smaller hint than anything else discussing it):

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This has me stumped. I can't get the raft back to alter the mirrors, but it feels like I would NEED to alter the mirrors to progress into ANY of the other corridors.

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Sounds like you're on the first part of the room (dropping the trapdoor). Then yes, you need to get the raft back so you can continue to the next part. For a hint, see my post a few posts up.

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