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I'm thinking there's something clever going on here. But I just can't figure out what it is. Hints please?
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RabidChild wrote:
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can I please have another hint! or a demo I am lost completely
06-22-2014 at 09:41 PM
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Yeah, I figured the
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was important. But I cannot see how to use it to my advantage. And I've never seen how I'm able to make moves that I couldn't make before.
06-23-2014 at 03:38 AM
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I don't see how that helps though, since to do this, the roach is going to close the yellow door, and I won't be able to trace out a path.
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Monsters will always target the closest clone, so as long as the active clone keeps to the west and moving north, the roach will follow until it reaches the hot tile.
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That doesn't help me though. I got only one temporal clone. And I still don't see how the red door is anything short of useless. It doesn't seem possible to make moves into walls.

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I'm not sure what you mean about making moves into walls.

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It took me a long time, even with the hint.

I'd add:

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to make it work
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philrennert3 wrote:
It took me a long time, even with the hint.

I'd add:

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to make it work

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RabidChild wrote:
I'm not sure what you mean about making moves into walls.

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Sounds very strange.
Please post a partial demo.

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No, what Jane is describing is normal temporal clone behaviour. If you record a bumping move against a closed door, the temporal clone records this as a bump. If a subsequent timeline opens the door, the temporal clone will repeat the bump rather than moving through the door.

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Nuntar wrote: No, what Jane is describing is normal temporal clone behaviour. If you record a bumping move against a closed door, the temporal clone records this as a bump. If a subsequent timeline opens the door, the temporal clone will repeat the bump rather than moving through the door.
That makes sense. I'll work on it with that in mind. Thank you both for answering.

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adS wrote:
Sounds very strange.
Please post a partial demo.

I have recorded my demo but am not able to find it when I browse
How do I avoid bumping? I have to program the temporal clone prior
Beethro opening the doors for him.


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junglejane wrote:
adS wrote:
Sounds very strange.
Please post a partial demo.

I have recorded my demo but am not able to find it when I browse
How do I avoid bumping? I have to program the temporal clone prior
Beethro opening the doors for him.

Press F4

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junglejane wrote:
adS wrote:
Sounds very strange.
Please post a partial demo.

I have recorded my demo but am not able to find it when I browse
How do I avoid bumping? I have to program the temporal clone prior
Beethro opening the doors for him.

The basics is that both Beethros need to enter that hallway... you don't have a pushing weapon so the second one cannot record the moves elsewhere and be moved into position. The first must do the necessary moves in the exact place they have to be taken. He cannot record up moves by bumping into a door... the first needs to enter that hallway on both runs. The roach on the left means that both runs have to have Beethro moving northward every step for that section.

Edit: It's the second Beethro that goes up to hit the completion token. The first temporal clone opens doors for him.

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bwross wrote:
junglejane wrote:
adS wrote:
Sounds very strange.
Please post a partial demo.

I have recorded my demo but am not able to find it when I browse
How do I avoid bumping? I have to program the temporal clone prior
Beethro opening the doors for him.

The basics is that both Beethros need to enter that hallway... you don't have a pushing weapon so the second one cannot record the moves elsewhere and be moved into position. The first must do the necessary moves in the exact place they have to be taken. He cannot record up moves by bumping into a door... the first needs to enter that hallway on both runs. The roach on the left means that both runs have to have Beethro moving northward every step for that section.

Edit: It's the second Beethro that goes up to hit the completion token. The first temporal clone opens doors for him.

Click here to view the secret text


Hints on the mirror bit:

Click here to view the secret text

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I got it and am moving on. I do so appreciate the help that I have
received here.

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By the way, I have the impression you are not exactly honest regarding your age.

I have serious doubts you are 85 years old.

"Tarzan of the Apes" was published in 1912.
Hence I guess you were born around 1890 and are 125 years old, which is even more impressive.

Best wishes,

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