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yeah, I thought that should be the way, but the blue door was in place. After your message went thoroughly through the maze and found few uncleared rooms.
No blue doors now :)

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I'm trying to do the following challenge on this room:
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I've been trying:
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How do I make it to the roaches before they clog the corridors?

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For people's convenience, here is the original challenge thread.

As for how to do the challenge, besides the tip at that thread, you should also

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I need some help with the challenge. I can reach the X by turn 27. After this, I can

- either reach the right side in 32 turns, but by that time the entrance is already clogged
- or force some roaches to go left and some to go right, but this way then I start going right, a new batch of roaches will spawn while I move so the entrance gets clogged again.

Any more specific hints?
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First, you should go for the
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side.

Obviously the roaches will block you, so you need to manipulate them. The first trick is to realize that
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so this means that
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The additional trick that you need to do this is to realize that
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If you do all of these correctly, you should be able to
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This challenge is getting incredibly frustrating, much less this level; between 1N and 1E's challenges, I'd say this floor has the worst challenges I've faced so far, especially since this one was a HUGE gut punch since I did it through the intended "normal" method of...

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For what I know:
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And the hints weren't any better...
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And before anyone asks, recordings don't really work; you'd have to re-record for the Challenge edition of the hold (the Steam version uses it.) Otherwise, I can't import it.

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Anyone?

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(34,20) is floor in my copy of the hold, which should be identical to the Steam version. You can check the coordinates of any tile by right-clicking. If (34,20) has become a wall in the Steam version, that's a bug that needs to be fixed.

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Then I found out 4N had a challenge, and that I wouldn't have to just solve that, but also redo my wonky 1N 1E solution... Seriously, if I want to say any complaints about these holds, it's that only giving me the challenge AFTER I have the opportunity to void it is just cruel.
Actually you don't have to redo any rooms other than the ones the challenges are in.

You can restore to an earlier point in the level, complete a missed challenge, then go back to your furthest save and it'll still count. Secret rooms work the same way.

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Okay, so I am just counting wrong; both 34,20 and 34,21 are floors. I was curious as to if I was counting wrong or if the version I had was somehow corrupt, and we'd have a Spirals corruption situation.

Of course, this just raises more questions; what exactly am I doing wrong? I can get oh so very close with

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If it helps anyone, I've got a recording of my "closest" run attached. You'll need to run it on the Steam/5.0 version.

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Anyone...? Please help...?

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Anyone...? Please help...?


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This... Really doesn't help me.

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...any help?

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Sorry if I'm not posting a demo, but since I completed the whole Steam GatEB before this bug happened, I don't have any progress in the new, proper .dat files, and exporting demos with the old .dat files won't work as they can't be imported.

So I guess you have to find someone else for the demo. :( Though meanwhile you can keep trying.

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Sorry if I'm not posting a demo, but since I completed the whole Steam GatEB before this bug happened, I don't have any progress in the new, proper .dat files, and exporting demos with the old .dat files won't work as they can't be imported.

So I guess you have to find someone else for the demo. :( Though meanwhile you can keep trying.

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I'm in a similar boat for the challenge, sadly. I can get as close as having my sword pointing north with the next batch just reaching the hole to the upper left, and if I were to move forward I'd die and if I change my sword direction the hole clogs up. I dunno what's up with this challenge, I've done everything else, but this one seems oddly difficult to pull off.
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Using Rompeprop's instructions I've recorded a demo with the steam version. Hopefully this helps.

Edit: Sorry, apparently there is a bug in the Steam version preventing demo's from working, I can't even export and import my own demo's. I've put the right demo, but I don't think it'll work.

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Using Rompeprop's instructions I've recorded a demo with the steam version. Hopefully this helps.

The file's for 1N1E...? It also won't work even still...

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...Anybody? I still need help... :(

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Attached is a demo. This is very very fiddly.

This is taken from the DROD 5 game engine so it should work on anything since then...

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Okay, at this point, either I'm an idiot, or the Steam version is just glitching on me. I can't import that either since it's a hold I "don't have." This has been the case with literally all of the demos I've ever tried to import to a Steam version.

So as far as I'm concerned, a demo would have to be recorded, like, recorded-recorded via a screen capture software and put onto YouTube or something strange like that. At least, until the demo import feature gets fixed on Steam. Because, as far as I can assume, the import feature's flat-out busted on Steam.

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Here is a screencap of the demo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4i3Zb8vaJA&feature=youtu.be

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Here is a screencap of the demo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4i3Zb8vaJA&feature=youtu.be

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Now that the GatEB Steam import demo/save bug is fixed I finally have my progress now, so here's a demo.
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