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Dimitris
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I can put the roaches on the plates ok. I release the soldier. The roaches move ,the soldier is trapped in the middle of his route...
04-02-2012 at 10:20 AM
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The next step is a lot easier than you think - you've done the hard part of the room already.
(I set things up just right)

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04-02-2012 at 11:07 AM
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Nope! I can't do it!

Here's what I did in detail.

-position the roaches two steps above the plates
-go for the south plate that releases the guard
-when i touch the save point the roaches are on their plates
-go left and "push" the guard north
-leave the area.the roaches move south of their plates and the guard is trapped


04-02-2012 at 11:45 AM
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That all sounds correct
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04-02-2012 at 11:51 AM
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Yes that was it! I had to move them all south.
Thanks!
04-02-2012 at 12:40 PM
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I am having trouble with aligning the roaches. I can never align them perfectly, to move the left roach I have to move the roach to its right as well, and nothing works. :~(

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04-21-2012 at 04:24 PM
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04-21-2012 at 05:00 PM
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i tried that, along with the other info above, but the 2 left roaches never align properly because there is wall in my way... pretty sure i am missing something obvious, but i think i need my first gateb demo :(

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04-21-2012 at 05:38 PM
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You do realize that once you step on the plate to release the guard those roaches are going to move, right?

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bwross wrote:
You do realize that once you step on the plate to release the guard those roaches are going to move, right?

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Finally got it, and the rest just fell into place. Thank you for your help! :thumbsup

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04-21-2012 at 08:20 PM
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I think I'm having the same issue usbdriver was having, but I'm not seeing the solution. I can get the right-most 3 roaches easy. When it comes to the roach at 2, I'm at 1, and there's nowhere for me to go where I can leave him there, due to that extra bit of wall in the way. A little more help, please?

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04-24-2012 at 12:02 AM
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Remember that you move before monsters. So if you get out of range the roach won't get a chance to respond. This means the last move can be different.

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04-24-2012 at 01:45 AM
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That got it. Thank you MMM. I fail at counting.

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04-24-2012 at 02:04 AM
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This is my last secret room, and the first one that stumps me. I can't see how I can solve the room even having all the roaches 2 tiles away when I step on the plessure plate.

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06-25-2012 at 10:59 AM
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That will allow you to get the guard half way. Jacob's hints above are how you get the guard to go the remainder.

And although it might not look like you can do it...
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06-25-2012 at 03:58 PM
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bwross wrote:
That will allow you to get the guard half way. Jacob's hints above are how you get the guard to go the remainder.

And although it might not look like you can do it...
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Of course I have to stand on the trapdoor, it is the only place where I lose my invisibility. Fact is, despite trying and trying, I just can't solve the room... Here's what I did step by step:

1) Enter the room, lure all roaches down
2) Go up, and place the roaches two tiles above the plessure plates.
3) Enter the guard area, free him. I am on the checkpoint when the roaches are on the plessure plates, which means that they will close all doors if I stand on the plessure plate one more move to let the guard out (otherwise, he will just stand on the yellow door).
4) No matter what I do now. If I lure the roaches down and then go up, I can open all the yellow doors, but this lasts 2 moves, since the roaches are going to move again the next move.

What am I missing? Thank you all.

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06-25-2012 at 04:27 PM
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Neather2 wrote:
What am I missing? Thank you all.
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06-25-2012 at 04:46 PM
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I'm maybe missing something related to the guard. If I in the first part of the room I lure the roaches two tiles above the plessure plates, isn't the guard going to stand on the yellow door? Do I have to lure the roaches *3* tiles above? I can't seem to do this with the second roach... :?

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06-25-2012 at 04:53 PM
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Part 1.
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Part 2.
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06-25-2012 at 05:03 PM
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This is exactly what I'm doing, but the guard is one tile away, so I can't lead him north. I assume I am luring the roaches just one tile above the plessure plates. I've already tried doing two, but the second roach does not stay in its position.

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But if you lure them one, how will you get across the plate to the other side to become invisible again? That isn't going to work at all.
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Then two tiles, still I can't do it with the second roach :no

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06-25-2012 at 05:59 PM
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I covered this above. To place the second roach,
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This works if I want to place the roaches one tile above the plessure plates (which means two tiles away), but not one more! :(

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06-25-2012 at 06:09 PM
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If you're placing it so that the roach moves twice to the plate, which is how far you need to move across the other plate, then you've got it right. However you want to count your fenceposts.

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Ok, then:

R=Roach
X=Tiles
P=Plessure Plates

Do I need this:
R
X
P

or this:

R
X
X
P

I can get the first one, but it is not enough because the guard will keep standing on the yellow door and the roaches will close the doors if I wait another turn while I'm visible; I can't get the second one for the second roach, whatever I do- diagonal movements or not.

Thanks.

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06-25-2012 at 06:17 PM
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The first one. The roach moves twice to the plate, you move twice across the plate. And if you don't want to have the roaches keep moving, follow my advice above...
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No, it won't. It keeps standing on the yellow door. :look

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Why?

Here's the details about the guard for the first part:

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