Jatopian
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And thank you for listening. While I still believe that by-game-of-origin division is best, I understand the desire to maintain a sort of backward compatibility. It is not a big deal in any case; as I said, people will make their own judgment calls about what tracks to listen to and in what arrangement.

I think what you propose will work out just fine (again, so long as you aren't charging more for DMOD than JtRH... actually best to leave the price as is; "same price as the game that the music is from" is a little iffy too).

I recommend making it very clear to everyone in the package description that buying one gets you both and that together they comprise a complete soundtrack (unless they don't, in which case be sure to say it's complete except for the title theme).
I'd also make sure the description emphasizes that it is the complete FDROD soundtrack too.
In fact, where you recommend downloading the JtRH demo to hear these songs, it might be better to recommend FDROD first, JtRH demo second. FDROD has these advantages: under 10 megabytes per download, doesn't require the user to leave their browser, doesn't require any installation if one already has Flash, and features more of the music overall in any case.

Here is a track listing to help you out.

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mrimer wrote:
I think there is still a question about naming the collection. I don't want to call the-package-of-everything-AE-and-JtRH "Volume 1", because that's no longer accurate. I think I will make a Volume 2 containing the rest of the music, and both Vol. 1 and 2 will be included as a package deal in a single order. In other words, "buy Vol. 1, get Vol. 2 free". Does this sound alright to everyone?

It sounds great!

Specially the

Even Plant's track and the not-extended version of "Ancient Machine", if you can.

part (if you can).

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Hey, thanks for mapping the tracks for me and posting it here, Jatopian! That's quite helpful. I'll post this on the website as soon as I can.

Yes, I'll describe things as you suggest. I'm not going to mention Flash DROD here, though, until the game is actually released. At that time, I'll add the mention and include a link.

I've e-mailed Emmett for permission to include "TitleErikMix", the JtRH title track with the chant, in the collection. I'll let you guys know when I hear from him.

Sure, I can include the non-extended version of Ancient Machine in here too.

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Incidentally, I would have thought that if Volume 1 was JtRH and AE tracks, that Volume 2 would be TCB and Volume 3 would be RPG....

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TFMurphy wrote:
Incidentally, I would have thought that if Volume 1 was JtRH and AE tracks, that Volume 2 would be TCB and Volume 3 would be RPG....

Only about half of the AE and JtRH tracks ended up on Volume 1, so that's why Volume 2 has the other half. I agree with Jatopian it would probably have been better to have AE and JtRH tracks split by game title into separate volumes, where AE is Volume 1 and JtRH is Volume 2, but here's to backwards compatibility.

Also, again, Caravel doesn't have a license to sell TCB and RPG music. Emmett Plant and Jon Sonnenberg have their own plans to sell this music on their own sites. Either or both of them might already be doing so, and I'm simply not aware of it. We could try to work out some kind of deal with them to sell the collection of their tracks appearing in these games on our site, and somehow splitting revenue with them, but it's not a given.

Everyone, please try to understand Caravel is rolling with the circumstances the best it can.

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Emmett replied and said it would be fine to include the title chant in the JtRH collection. Woo!

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Wouldn't it be clearer, and possibly more attractive, to bundle all the available music into a single album?
CaravelGames have quite a tendency to complicate things, don't they?

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If it is not possible to get the music to sell here, I know that I would like an option to go to find said music on wherever they happen to be selling it. So links with description of the product and where it is would be great.

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The spitemaster wrote:
If it is not possible to get the music to sell here, I know that I would like an option to go to find said music on wherever they happen to be selling it. So links with description of the product and where it is would be great.

Sure, I'd be happy to check on this. Emmett just told me he never got around to releasing one, so I've asked him if he'd want to sell a collection on our website. I'll likewise check with Jon to see what he has in the works.

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Great news here.

First off, I've put together DMOD, Volume 2. It's now mentioned on the website and available for free in the DMOD collection. So, now the whole JtRH and AE (and FDROD) soundtracks are available as a package deal! Anyone who has already ordered can now download the complete collection from the Downloads page. I've included the track listing with the mapping to where the songs are heard in-game in the collection.

Second, I'm discussing a release of a DROD RPG soundtrack with Emmett. He's working on some remixes and all new songs to round out the album. Hopefully, this will also be available sometime soon.

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That's fantastic! I held off buying DMOD in the past, but this certainly changed my mind. (Even if it's just an excuse to send money Caravel's way )

EDIT: Does DMOD register on the forum? It would be nice having it on the download page just like all other owned products.

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Thanks, slimm tom!

slimm tom wrote:
EDIT: Does DMOD register on the forum? It would be nice having it on the download page just like all other owned products.

That's right! Just register your order on the forum, and you can (re)download it from the Downloads page.

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For the record, I received Plimus download links and receipt, but not a CaravelNet activation link. I was able to get the link through the support system, but there might be a problem with the outgoing emails on this front. (Or it is just delayed)

EDIT: The tags on volume 2 seem to be off, a couple of tracks are uncorrectly called 'The Spaces'.

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slimm tom wrote:
EDIT: The tags on volume 2 seem to be off, a couple of tracks are uncorrectly called 'The Spaces'.

I can fix this. Which ones, please?

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mrimer wrote:
I can fix this. Which ones, please?

Track 1 through 12 of Volume 2.

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I bought Volume 1 of DMOD on CD years ago. Does the entitle me to a download of Volume 2?

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RabidChild wrote:
I bought Volume 1 of DMOD on CD years ago. Does the entitle me to a download of Volume 2?

Absolutely! Anyone can just e-mail or PM me the name or e-mail address they used on their original order, and I can check it and hook you up.

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The JtRH title track still seems to be absent. Everything else is in there, though as slimm tom said, many tracks are mislabeled.

It seems to only be downloadable through Plimus? Or the key just didn't get sent to me. I've been helped manually now.

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Jatopian wrote:
The JtRH title track still seems to be absent. Everything else is in there, though as slimm tom said, many tracks are mislabeled.

My apologies. I've fixed these issues. You can redownload the fixed version from the Downloads page now, and I'm reuploading to Plimus presently.

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well I've complained enough in this thread I guess I'll go buy the thing

okay bought

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mrimer wrote:
Great news here.

First off, I've put together DMOD, Volume 2. It's now mentioned on the website and available for free in the DMOD collection. So, now the whole JtRH and AE (and FDROD) soundtracks are available as a package deal! Anyone who has already ordered can now download the complete collection from the Downloads page. I've included the track listing with the mapping to where the songs are heard in-game in the collection.

Second, I'm discussing a release of a DROD RPG soundtrack with Emmett. He's working on some remixes and all new songs to round out the album. Hopefully, this will also be available sometime soon.

Awesome... and double awesome!

Any news from the Jon Sonnenberg front?


Also, this:

Bombadil wrote:
Btw, while the soundtrack package was downloading I was not able to reply or open other forum threads. I had noticed this before, but I think I read somewhere that this had been fixed?

happened again.

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http://caravelgames.com/Articles/Games_2/DMOD.html

Flash DROD is no longer an upcoming release.

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Okay, I'm retarded, and in pursuit of more humility, I'll disclose it to everyone here. I went through arcane Caravel documents in my basement the other week (which likely connects to Erik's somewhere beneath the surface). I reviewed Caravel's ownership of IP, and I see that when Erik sold his share of Caravel and left the company, he transferred complete rights to all (his) IP in our products, including DMOD, to Caravel Games. So, the long and short of it is that Caravel doesn't need to ask Erik's permission for selling DMOD anywhere or anyhow.

...

I don't have any plans to do anything in particular in light of this revelation at the moment, but it does clarify that the rights trainwreck that Banjooie blew the whistle on is purely an illusory artifact of my (and possibly Erik's) grey matter. There is no trainwreck, and hopefully there won't be any gawkers hanging around to look at nothing. Carry on.

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One word: bandcamp!

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I'm not sure who modded down mrimer's post or why, but I've undone it on the basis that people should be encouraged to admit their mistakes, since it is a hard but righteous thing.

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Well!

Did you know there are no Magic cards that say 'illusion' on them and are also artifacts?

Because it ruined an amazing joke I was going to make.

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There's Illusionary Mask.

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See, I was looking for Illusory. I guess I am an idiot.

edit: wow that card

wow

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