yarnexpress
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Thus far this is a great hold, I love it!

I do have a problem, I can't figure out how to prevent a monster from entering the tile marked 1 & the tile immediately above it.

A hint would be appreciated. Thanks!

Scott
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That was a fiendishly difficult room. I can't remember alot but a couple of things.

yarnexpress
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Thanks for the hint!

Now I need to figure out how to do what you suggest.

Kudos to the builder of this hold.

duggie
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I'm stuck in this room as well.



Any help?

Atch
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I hope this helps:

jedicho
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I have just conquered this room and it is the hardest/most frustrating room I have ever played so far. Just getting into the section with the red cross to the right of the screen was torture in itself lol.I can not discuss this room any more,my brain needs to recover; I've spent 8 and 1/2 hours on this hold already and I think 6 of those have been on this room!

Briareos
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jedicho wrote:
I have just conquered this room and it is the hardest/most frustrating room I have ever played so far. Just getting into the section with the red cross to the right of the screen was torture in itself lol.I can not discuss this room any more,my brain needs to recover; I've spent 8 and 1/2 hours on this hold already and I think 6 of those have been on this room!

Oooh, you're *so* going to love Dusty Dungeon's secret rooms...

SCNR...

np: Mr. Lif - The Fries (Mo' Mega)

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jedicho
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Oh no I'm now playing the Perfection hold and...

larrymurk
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Yes, full credit goes to Urban. This room is virtually a copy. I do appologize to those who are unhappy playing this room over again. I've got to say it kicks me in the butt for quite a while every time I play it.

Hooterh
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Now I know I have to get the wraithwings to go to the front of the ship, but I cannot manage to do so (at least I can't get them to stay there). Can someone give me some useful hint? (Or perhaps sent a demo)?? Thankx

Hooterh
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Never mind: got it!!

jbluestein
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OK, this one has me a bit stumped (I played the similar room in Perfection and it didn't trouble me much...). I'm reading previous hints, which suggest that



What critical clue am I missing?

Josh

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Stephen4Louise
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From what I remember....



Easier said than done!

Steve.

jbluestein
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Stephen4Louise wrote:
From what I remember....

Click here to view the secret text

×I put queens at 1, 2 and 3. Then (with careful timing) dropped the first trapdoor, and ran through the tar and out of the boat. You need to be far enough south to stop any roaches getting trapped.

Easier said than done!

You know, I was afraid you were going to say something like that.

Gaah.



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Blondbeard
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Heh! There's a very fun diference between this room and the one in perfection Sometimes there's a big differance between a forcearrow and a green door.

jbluestein
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Blondbeard wrote:
Heh! There's a very fun diference between this room and the one in perfection Sometimes there's a big differance between a forcearrow and a green door.

Yeah. The lack of a particular green door gave me much headache.

But now, it is solved. Painful, but doable. (Thanks to Stephen and everyone else...)

Josh

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disoriented
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jbluestein wrote:

Stephen4Louise wrote:
From what I remember....

Click here to view the secret text

×I put queens at 1, 2 and 3. Then (with careful timing) dropped the first trapdoor, and ran through the tar and out of the boat. You need to be far enough south to stop any roaches getting trapped.

Easier said than done!

You know, I was afraid you were going to say something like that.

Gaah.

The hard part for me is getting back in to kill the brain and drop the second trapdoor, without the roaches getting trapped.

Spoiler or a demo please.

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CuriousShyRabbit
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There's something you need to do after you kill the brain but before you drop the second trapdoor, which will fix your problem with the roaches.

disoriented
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CuriousShyRabbit wrote:
There's something you need to do after you kill the brain but before you drop the second trapdoor, which will fix your problem with the roaches.

Click here to view the secret text

×Standing south of an unbrained roach queen will scare her north...

That appears to put a queen at (1) which is unhelpful. Did I get into an insoluble situation? (demo attached)



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CuriousShyRabbit
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I can't watch a TCB demo in JtRH, where I played this hold. But there's nothing wrong with having a queen at (1). I had a queen there too.

disoriented
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CuriousShyRabbit wrote:

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×Just make sure you're back inside, south of the trapdoors when she spawns.

OK, let me back up a bit. Which of these should I be doing?

- wait for the 4 roaches that spawned on the left to pass under the wall at (14,24)
- drop the first trapdoor
- dig through the tar
- kill the tar mother
- kill the brain
- survive a path through the wraithwings on the right side
- move south of row 23 along the right wall

Not all of the above things can be done before one of the next spawn of roaches gets stuck at (15,21).


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disoriented wrote:
- wait for the 4 roaches that spawned on the left to pass under the wall at (14,24)

Before anything else on the list, you should Then you can take as much time as you like for the rest of your list.

disoriented
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CuriousShyRabbit wrote:

disoriented wrote:
- wait for the 4 roaches that spawned on the left to pass under the wall at (14,24)

Before anything else on the list, you should

Click here to view the secret text

×rearrange the queens so you don't get 4 spawned roaches over there.

Then you can take as much time as you like for the rest of your list.

Thanks! I kept getting a roach stuck on (8,25) which made that manipulation impossible.

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