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Madrigal_Gurneyhalt
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So I've got the rattlers arranged to release each of the goblins but, unless I'm mistaken, the last one can only be released when all the rattlers have been released. The only way to achieve that appears to be to
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Only trouble is that a rattler comes through and traps me before the process is complete. The only way to prevent this seems to be to take a position on one of the trapdoors but then it becomes impossible to kill the last goblin and still have a way out. So where am I going wrong?
05-17-2011 at 04:30 PM
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Anyone?
05-18-2011 at 04:40 PM
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It's hard to give a hint since looking at my solution, none of the issues you mentioned seem related. However:

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05-18-2011 at 10:19 PM
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TripleM wrote:
It's hard to give a hint since looking at my solution, none of the issues you mentioned seem related. However:

Click here to view the secret text

Er ... no. I'm pretty sure that's actually impossible! I mean that the final goblin is only released when no rattlers are on the pressure plates. This occurs every 2nd step when the rattlers are in motion but not long enough to allow the goblin past the gates. So I can only conclude that it cannot be done until all the rattlers have cleared the holding area and are on their way to Beethro's entrance area.
05-19-2011 at 01:30 PM
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Madrigal_Gurneyhalt wrote:
Er ... no. I'm pretty sure that's actually impossible! I mean that the final goblin is only released when no rattlers are on the pressure plates. This occurs every 2nd step when the rattlers are in motion but not long enough to allow the goblin past the gates.
You are misunderstanding the puzzle then.

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05-19-2011 at 01:42 PM
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TFMurphy wrote:
Madrigal_Gurneyhalt wrote:
Er ... no. I'm pretty sure that's actually impossible! I mean that the final goblin is only released when no rattlers are on the pressure plates. This occurs every 2nd step when the rattlers are in motion but not long enough to allow the goblin past the gates.
You are misunderstanding the puzzle then.


Well, not misunderstanding it as such. I had a 'digit' flipped in my set up of the rattlers. Because it resulted in all the goblins being released (or at least, potentially released) it hadn't occurred to me to check it. All done now, thanks for the assist.
05-19-2011 at 02:56 PM
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I'm definitely missing something, first I thought make the three combinations from the 5-digit word the same way as two digits I get three combinations, but there are 10 rattlesnakes. I'm just confused and don't want to try 1024 combinations :?
09-27-2021 at 03:46 PM
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The point of the five-digit "word" is that it contains every possible combination of two binary digits: 00, 01, 10, 11.

You're supposed to extend this to a "word" that contains every possible combination of three binary digits - note that the door patterns for the goblins correspond to these. Each rattlesnake represents one digit in this "word", so you have ten digits to work with.
09-27-2021 at 04:17 PM
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Dragon Fogel wrote:
The point of the five-digit "word" is that it contains every possible combination of two binary digits: 00, 01, 10, 11.

You're supposed to extend this to a "word" that contains every possible combination of three binary digits - note that the door patterns for the goblins correspond to these. Each rattlesnake represents one digit in this "word", so you have ten digits to work with.

Ah, I was definitely going from word to digits not the other way around. Thanks!
09-27-2021 at 04:53 PM
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